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childewood
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« on: March 09, 2006, 10:14:11 AM »

I have a question. I'm assuming on-track handle is what leads to higher purses and more profit for the track. If that's the case: Why doesn't a track like Hawthorne(NJC) offer a guaranteed 100k Pick 6(or some sort of wager like that)for on track only.  Let's face it, you can get people out with bands and other promotions, but the chance to win money(big money)is unfortunately what this sport is all about, and that's what will get people to the track. It sure beats the on track rewards card. Any thoughts?Huh??
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2006, 11:27:45 AM »

The total combined handle is what drives the purses higher, but the ontrack live handle makes the most profit for the track owners, and the horsemen. it's a good idea, but personally I don't think it would bring hardly any new (or more old) patrons to the track.
I agree that it would be good for them if they came up with several "creative" new betting opportunities for the public to tackle, but there are also many other things they need to do to get more people to the racetrack.
The tracks need to cut patronage payroll expenses, and get more qualified people that can do the work of sometimes 3 or 4 people that they now have.
The horsemen need better representatives in our orginazations to help fight for the passing of new laws that will bring more money in to increase the purses.
The tracks need to offer more incentives to make it more affordable and attractive for patrons to visit the tracks, and to keep coming back.

I'm surprised that we haven't seen ANY news releases from the ITHA heirearchy on what they are doing or what we as interested partners can do to help push through HB1917. I haven't received any newsletters either. What are they doing to help? Aren't they supposed to be our voice?

Jim C. has offered more vision than they have. To my knowledge Jim isn't even on any part of the board, but he seems to be more concerned about what's going on than our current leadership.

I'm sure there will be a few people who try to bash what I say here. I would rather see more constructive ideas presented than nitpicking..
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2006, 11:39:46 AM »

BN
Why are you surprised you haven't heard anything from the ITHA on HB1917.
Joe and Justin are out spending your money and can care less about what you think.
The ITHA is ready to let Arlington and Hawthorne take recapture if HB 1917 is passed.
The harness guys got the tracks to agree to waive recapture if HB 1917 is passed so
Joe and Justin are probably getting paid off to just ignore the recapture problem.
Keep insulting Allah and you will pay the price!
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2006, 01:13:23 PM »

It looks like Hawthorne is not doing anything to increase on-track handle.  Has anyone seen any advertising on TV or radio to draw more people to the stickney oval?  Illinoise racing is know the lowest it ever has been.
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2006, 01:16:25 PM »

BN
Why are you surprised you haven't heard anything from the ITHA on HB1917.

Keep insulting Allah and you will pay the price!

Allah shove a broom stick up yer azz. Com'ere ya little dothead so's I can wring yer skinney little neck while I biotch slap ya.
I was being sarcastic, but yer too stupid to understand.
But, on the other hand - you did make a good point on the continuation of my thread. For that you will be awarded 2 chips of dried camel dung for you're long journey home..
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2006, 01:20:08 PM »

It looks like Hawthorne is not doing anything to increase on-track handle.  Has anyone seen any advertising on TV or radio to draw more people to the stickney oval?  Illinoise racing is know the lowest it ever has been.
cmon guy...the meet is all of 2 weeks old , the weather is starting to break and peoples minds will soon to turn to thoughts of going to the tra..... eeerrrr make that a cubs game
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2006, 01:37:31 PM »

It looks like Hawthorne is not doing anything to increase on-track handle.  Has anyone seen any advertising on TV or radio to draw more people to the stickney oval?  Illinoise racing is know the lowest it ever has been.

The word is that they have NO money for advertising. They're 2 to 3 months behind on the majority of their bills, and now the vendors are raising their prices to compensate for Hawthorne holding THEIR money. Tim Carey better turn things around soon, because if (and I say IF) they don't get the 3% from the riverboats - it's gonna be 2 properties next to each other that are vacant and razed.
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2006, 02:45:29 PM »

Regarding the pick 6 question, that has been tried here before with very little success. No one seemed to play it and the carry over amounts were always very small, or so they seemed to be. When it was a garrantied pick six Hawthorne got smacked a few times and lost a good deal of cash too.

I have always thought a show 9 type bet would be fun and get more newbies playing the bet. It would have to be a direct hit on the show picks of all 9 races, no consolation pay offs.  So many people tend to play parlay show pools that this type bet could catch on and be successful. Plus people think its an easy bet to hit.

Regarding what the IHHA did to get rid of recapture, they gave back to the tracks 10% of their 60% of the money they would get of the 3% solution. I would have to look at the numbers to see if that is a favorable exchange or not as far as Thoroughbreds are concerned. Down the road depending on where that 10th casino is finally opened, that 10% might be a bigger number than what recapture is, but again I'm not sure, just posing the question.
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2006, 03:27:24 PM »

Praise Allah & BeauNarro

Finally a post that I agree 100%!

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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2006, 03:43:39 PM »

n/t
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