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Author Topic: DOOMS DAY IS COMING!!!!!  (Read 3028 times)
Dan Nance
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« on: March 08, 2006, 12:50:37 PM »

When " Hoosier Park " opens up next month and more horses leave Chicago.

    Look at tonight's card at Balmoral. SIX.... 7 horse fields and 1.... EIGHT horse field. And no doubt the fields will become smaller after some lame horses are scratched tonight. And, not only are the fields short just look at the quality of the horses that are racing. Mostly $3,000 purses except for two races that go for 4,000. 

    WOW!! I never thought harness racing would become this bad in Chicago. What's going to happen when " Hoosier Park " opens? 
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2006, 12:54:13 PM »

   Never figured QCD moved 2 1/2 hrs east !!!!!
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2006, 12:54:40 PM »



   ... What's going to happen when " Hoosier Park " opens?... 
.."real" racing for good money with a management group that cares about the horsemen and the fans will commence.  The high fuel costs are the only thing keeping some horses here. Ask the LVDS guy to start taking Hoosier ASAP !   trotter  TC
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2006, 12:59:49 PM »

.."real" racing for good money with a management group that cares about the horsemen and the fans will commence.  The high fuel costs are the only thing keeping some horses here. Ask the LVDS guy to start taking Hoosier ASAP !   trotter  TC

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       Call someone at Hoosier and ask them why LV doesn't take Hoosier harness, will you? They take Hoosier T-breds so why not harness. Let me know what the excuse is.
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2006, 01:19:38 PM »

oh boy indiana breds,cant remember a real good one ever, plus this god foresaken place couldnt be in a worse spot geographicly.definately got that quad city downs look, staying put


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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2006, 01:25:00 PM »

dan did you forget that the three old will be coming back right around the first of april or has been so long since you trained that you would not remember that and lets see who would go to indiana c conrad so thats about six horses leaving trent stholer o thats about four who else would leave the people that are racing here right now will continue to race here who else ryan bellamy with his eight horse stable who was asked not to come back according to tc who else would leave since you know everything danny boy
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2006, 01:31:41 PM »

oh boy indiana breds,cant remember a real good one ever, plus this god foresaken place couldnt be in a worse spot geographicly.definately got that quad city downs look, staying put


regardss,,,,jester
jester, trust me when I tell you the place is as clean as a whistle, inside and out, frontside and back.  Foxy Manuever and Priemiereonbroadway are recent decent stock (there program needs to get better) and they don't write any NW/ cheap CL during the w/e, only good overnights.  a typical Saturday would feature every rank from $8,000 cl, up to the top (? $40,000 CL), plus the OPEN or INVITE.  The claimers go for 10 % or more than they do here, so the quality is as good or better than IL.  The drivers are kept in line; no hotdogging, excessive whipping, etc. and the pre-race testing weeds out more cheaters than in IL, where NO pre race testing is conducted.  Geographically, it's located near I-65, I-69, I-70, and I-74, connecting it to Chicago, Cincinnatti, Columbus, St. Louis, Lexington, Louisville, and other racing venues in the midwest, so I don't really follow your point there (you must mean for YOU).  Stay put and enjoy via the world of simulcasting.  Chalk/chalk exactas pay 50 % more there than here.  the average TRI is competitive with here.  The throwout drivers (like an Owen Julius or fill in a name here) never hit the ticket, so the 'capping angles are very good.  My advice is to watch then try it; you might like it.   trotter  TC
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2006, 01:36:25 PM »

HAWTHORNE HARNESS CANNOT COME SOON ENOUGH!!!!  I HOPE THERE IS ENOUGH STOCK LEFT HERE TO RACE IN THE SUMMER!!!
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2006, 01:36:42 PM »

dan did you forget that the three old will be coming back right around the first of april or has been so long since you trained that you would not remember that and lets see who would go to indiana c conrad so thats about six horses leaving trent stholer o thats about four who else would leave the people that are racing here right now will continue to race here who else ryan bellamy with his eight horse stable who was asked not to come back according to tc who else would leave since you know everything danny boy
swaymi, I thought you were aware - boy was I WRONG !  Try Bellamy, Allums, P'Pool, Brightwell, and some others all will be sending multiple horses to post at the Hop, thus thinning the ranks all the more here @ Form Reversal Downs.  also, show me where I ever said anything negative about Ryan Bellamy and I'll give you $5,000 CASH !  It's a myth, a fantasy, cooked up by proven goofs and liars who ran from the forum like it was on fire when they were proven WRONG !  Jealousy will get you nowhere, nor will multiple troll screennames.   trotter  TC
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2006, 01:41:30 PM »

the road to balmoral is easy just follow the map

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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2006, 01:47:26 PM »

the road to balmoral is easy just follow the map

OS, how about a map to this Valhalla ?   
...made famous by 

 trotter  TC
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2006, 01:53:15 PM »

 trotter tc, i been there ,twice, yes clean facility,poor racing,ask coleman,maxwell,if they ever got rich, plus horses from mich,ohio, please stop!



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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2006, 01:56:04 PM »

tc you mention a bunch of guys that have eight head each balmoral will  pick up stables like erv miller who alone will bring more horses then the four you mention dont forget guys like tom simmons and homer along with others who had good two year old will be bringing them back for there three year old seasons now dan and others are acting like the opening of hoosier is going to stop racing in illinois what  a joke. do you know how many ill breds there is out there that are almost ready to start racing do you think that they are going to go to hoosier park to race?   tc you are right i dont know where you said that about bellamy i just read it so im wrong and im sorry but you guys thinking that everybody is just going to get up and go to hoosier you guys are wrong , first of all you have guys like eash, haynes ,barnes,conrad,stohler,gaskin,perdue,cullipher,luther,overstreet,and many more that point for that meet so it will be hard for these guys to get in so they will either sit out a week or race at balmoral and maywood  and my guess is they will race at maywood only time will tell but i think you guys are wroing.....
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2006, 01:56:23 PM »

my dad was born and raised less than 100 yards from that spot.. it is on the corner of front and consaul street in the heart of the hungarian village section of east toledo... exit on front street off of interstate i-280(north off the ohio turnpike) go east about 1/4 mile and you are there.. the hot roast beef mashed and gravy, the stuffed cabbages, and the mother of all hot dogs(actually a hungarian sausage) will leave you stuffed and feeling full for hours .. the chicken paprikash is another favorite of mine and the chili is a spicy work of hunky love...hungry  just writing about it.... one of the special ambiences about tony packos are the autographed buns of major celebrities from bill clinton to burt reynolds and many others that adourn the walls... yum yum.. and if you come in the ..summer go to a toledo mud hens game...the best ball park in all of minor league baseball..last years triple aaa champs... and only 8 dollars a ticket...fireworks every weekend game and a full 10,000 crowd rocks the hen house most every weekend night
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2006, 01:56:59 PM »

trotter tc, i been there ,twice, yes clean facility,poor racing,ask coleman,maxwell,if they ever got rich, plus horses from mich,ohio, please stop!



gimme crete,,,,jester
Fair enough.  I myself enjoy the #1 thing about Hoosier park - FULL FIELDS , something that's been a problem here since the Big M opened up for winter.  Perhaps you can find an angle on these 7 horse fields, but I can't.  I'll watch and root for a good trainer or if a friend has a horse in, but the gaming dollar stays on the voucher.  I won't play those short fields.  JMO.   trotter  TC
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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2006, 02:00:39 PM »

HAWTHORNE HARNESS CANNOT COME SOON ENOUGH!!!!  I HOPE THERE IS ENOUGH STOCK LEFT HERE TO RACE IN THE SUMMER!!!

I've been told that the 30 day Hawthorne meet is going to be HUGE. Carey is saying that the purses will be great and new faces are coming to town to make the racing better and more exciting.

     
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2006, 02:01:55 PM »

tc you mention a bunch of guys that have eight head each balmoral will  pick up stables like erv miller who alone will bring more horses then the four you mention dont forget guys like tom simmons and homer along with others who had good two year old will be bringing them back for there three year old seasons now dan and others are acting like the opening of hoosier is going to stop racing in illinois what  a joke. do you know how many ill breds there is out there that are almost ready to start racing do you think that they are going to go to hoosier park to race?   tc you are right i dont know where you said that about bellamy i just read it so im wrong and im sorry but you guys thinking that everybody is just going to get up and go to hoosier you guys are wrong , first of all you have guys like eash, haynes ,barnes,conrad,stohler,gaskin,perdue,cullipher,luther,overstreet,and many more that point for that meet so it will be hard for these guys to get in so they will either sit out a week or race at balmoral and maywood  and my guess is they will race at maywood only time will tell but i think you guys are wroing.....
When do 2 year old races start around here - JULY ?  Erv doesn't have overnighters ready and waiting, mostly a couple of potential monsters on the shelf and Juvies.  All the frosh/sophs will add to the total horseflesh around here, but I haven't bet a 2 yr. old race since HP Campion (Jim Curran) @ Spk.  how did that race go, I forgot...and to paraphrase Tony Soprano..."Maywood is dead to me..."   trotter  TC
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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2006, 02:04:17 PM »

I've been told that the 30 day Hawthorne meet is going to be HUGE. Carey is saying that the purses will be great and new faces are coming to town to make the racing better and more exciting.

     

Yes Dan...Todd Warren should fit right in.  He's apparently welcome here with open arms (under the Rucker Doctrine no doubt  Wink ).   trotter  TC  P.S.  Anything beats the Gestapo !
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2006, 02:07:23 PM »

Yes Dan...Todd Warren should fit right in.  He's apparently welcome here with open arms (under the Rucker Doctrine no doubt  Wink ).   trotter  TC  P.S.  Anything beats the Gestapo !

I didn't hear anything about Todd Warren and I don't even no the guy. Is he a good trainer? Where is he from? 
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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2006, 02:10:35 PM »

He's another crook from Michigan!!!
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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2006, 02:13:57 PM »

I didn't hear anything about Todd Warren and I don't even no the guy. Is he a good trainer? Where is he from? 
warren is from sports creek area of michigan and always has a 350-400 batting avg at detroit , windsor and indiana...he improves most every horse he claims..they pull first over and just go and go and go...his current avg at windsor is 414 training and 400 driving..at nvlle he is higher than that
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2006, 02:18:03 PM »

He's another crook from Michigan!!!

Yeah, everyone's a crook who wins races. Do you consider Rucker a crook? How about Anderson? What about Darcy? What about Andrew Robinson? How about Blumenfeld? What about Seldon and Eric Ledford? How about Plowman? What about Oosting? And lot of others who win races. Are they all crooks because they win races?

    
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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2006, 02:38:52 PM »

I don't know Warren personally but I heard he was asked to leave some tracks..
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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2006, 02:41:37 PM »

Certainly not everybody that wins races is a crook.  Somebody has to win every race.  All of those trainers named win many races, how do you explain Darcy's turnaround the last couple of years, Andrew Robinson the last 6 months???  JUICE JUICE JUICE!!!!
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2006, 02:43:25 PM »

I don't know Warren personally but I heard he was asked to leave some tracks..
and you dont know what you are talking about in this instance either.. he is racing at nvlle windsor and woodbine currently has come into bmlp and won about a month ago
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