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« on: December 12, 2009, 11:07:28 AM »

Driver and track?
Horse is Westfield Girl and was promptly exported to Italy

Driver on right and location?
Bruce Nickells on left.
Joani Ross center.

Both drivers?
1948 at Roosevelt Raceway.


Driver?

Caddie Hanover and ?? on bike?
 This lady the matron of a familiar family.
She drove as a hobby when young. She was a chemist for DuPont and worked on explosives research until the World War II was over.

 Will provide answers Sunday AM.
 Images merely placed temporarily and will be removed after answers are provided.
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2009, 02:09:08 PM »

Come on man. Don't be kidding us about this Joani Ross. This girl was on the news last night. She is Tiger mistress #23b.
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2009, 02:50:26 PM »

Come on man. Don't be kidding us about this Joani Ross. This girl was on the news last night. She is Tiger mistress #23b.

 Kinda doubt this is the same gal.
 This photo was taken before Tiger was born.

 Note drivers wearing soft hats and not helmets!

 This Ross was a "Miss Photoflash" when the photo was taken.
 Jayne Maynesfield was a Miss Photoflash in earlier years.

 
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2009, 03:37:30 PM »

Driver with Bruce Nickells-John Chapman?

Driver in mud-Del Miller on left?

Driver-Leroy Copeland
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2009, 03:40:06 PM »

Just because it is a Hanover horse I will guess that the lady driving Caddie Hanover is Lawerance Shepards wife or one of his daughters.
Alma ,Pat, or, Charlett
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2009, 05:14:21 PM »

"Both Drivers? (003)"

 Driver on left:
 This horseman and his father (both) were two of the seventy-seven in 1938 that met under "National Gathering of Friends of Harness Racing" to form the USTA. Same horseman's brother, remains alive today in his 90's.

 On right?
 One of two famous brothers that both spent time in Russia racing horses.
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2009, 05:52:48 PM »

Just because it is a Hanover horse I will guess that the lady driving Caddie Hanover is Lawerance Shepards wife or one of his daughters.
Alma ,Pat, or, Charlett

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            I'm not sure any of the other Sheppard daughters (besides Alma; even Alma didn't race any horses, she participated in time trials, and many are not aware that she set records with other horses prior to Dean Hanover) ever raced any horses.

 Charlotte Sheppard-Devan has owned some very famous horses and is the only living sister today.

 Pat Sheppard-Williams is the mother of Russell Williams of Hanover.
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 The father of the gal in the picture owned a farm that was originally a dairy farm in Cheaspeake City, MD., of which the name was Bohemia Point Farm.
 The daughter of this gal is known quite well today, although primarily behind the scenes, where she is quite active.
 The husband of this gal, had/has (?) both a nephew and a great nephew with the same first name that are quite well-known horsemen.
 
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2009, 06:06:16 PM »

Driver with Bruce Nickells-John Chapman?

 NOT Chapman.

 This reinsman raced actively in Chicagoland, however not exclusively.
 The name is not very well known (at least that I recall).
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2009, 06:16:23 PM »

Driver-Leroy Copeland

 Sorry.

 Different family.
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2009, 07:11:25 PM »

Westfield Girl  1947 year book
Owned by
Baker Acres
St.Charles, IL.
Last start in the USA was
The Maud S Trot At DuQuoin, IL. on Aug 27  1947.
Finished second to Victory Song in 2:01 4/5
Does not list a driver or trainer.
So I will guess the picture is at Du Quoin, IL.

1946 year book

 Her last USA win was
The Kentucky Trot at Lex, KY. on Oct 4, 1946
She finished 1,2,2,1 in times of
2:02 1/2   2:03 1/2  2:04 1/4  2:04 1/2
Does not list a driver

Wild ass guess Guy Crippen
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2009, 07:25:28 PM »

Muddy driver on the left Edward H. Harriman or E. Roland Harriman.
I think Edward H. is the dad so this must be E. Roland Harriman.
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2009, 11:18:56 PM »

Muddy driver on the left Edward H. Harriman or E. Roland Harriman.
I think Edward H. is the dad so this must be E. Roland Harriman.

 I'm unable to recall seeing any photo of Roland Harriman on an evening.

 When he drove in races, his participation was exclusive to matinees.

 Here's a very neat picture of Roland Harriman when his young, where he accompanied his father on the famous trip to Alaska in 1899. There was an entire PBS show on the E. H. Harriman.

 There are also pictures of Roland Harriman and his older sister on the Library of Congress website that are quite unique.
 
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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2009, 10:24:53 AM »

mySt01
Harry Whitney at Good Time Park.

mySt02
Stan Stucker
from June 6, 1956 Harness Horse and Maywood Park:
J. J. Lucas, Jr. Photos
Even though she's only a two legged "filly", Joani Ross, "Miss Photoflash of 1956" seems to be getting a lot of attention and expert advice from drivers Bruce Nickells and Stan Stucker at Maywood Park. Even the most devoted driver must welcome a change from looking at horses all the time. We don't know what class the racing secretary would assign Joani to, but she must be a good gaited miss as we can't spot a boot or hopple anywhere.


mySt03
Sanders Russell and Sam Caton.
Sanders Russell and his father I. P. Russell , Sr., were two of the original 77-present at the "Gathering of Friends of Harness" in 1938.
Will and Sam Caton were the two brothers. There were other Caton fmily members later.



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LLoyd Gilmour

from the 1974 USTA Handbook:

GILMOUR, Lloyd H.   BIRTHPLACE: Fort Erie, Ontario
Ridgeway, Ontario   BIRTHDATE: 10-3-45

 Railbirds at Vernon Downs have spent the past six seasons tracking the progress of Lloyd Gilmour, 28, youngest member of the Gilmour brothers' harness racing family. In 1972 Lloyd posted 67 total victories for the season, including 29 wins at Vernon. In 1973 Lloyd started "hot" at Rockingham Park and finished second in the driver standings at Vernon with 93 victories.
 Although being born into the sport, Lloyd had to wait in the wings for his chance, as all nine of noted Canadian horseman William Gilmour's children had to take an active part in the family's harness happenings. After his brothers left the homeplace, Lloyd inherited the training responsibilities for his dad's stable .... at age 13. After a seven year stint with his own public stable, the youngest Gilmour first arrived at Vernon in 1969 as an assistant for George Forshey. He's never left.
"When I first started out, I guess people felt that I should just start winning like my brothers. I'd be fooling if I said I didn't notice Some pressure. But, that's changed. I'm pretty much on my own now." Lloyd, like his older brothers, has become one of "his track's" top catch drivers.


mySt05
Ruth Bower-Davis

 Ruth Bower married Olin Davis. Their daughter Judy Davis-Wilson continues the families dedication to the industry.
 Eddie Davis Sr., a nephew of Olin Davis and Eddie Davis Jt., a great nephew.
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2009, 01:30:48 PM »

Wilderness,
Are you sure Eddie Davis and Judy Davis-Wilson are not brother and sister. Kids of Olin.
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2009, 02:48:50 PM »

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          I've been emailing with Judy for some years and we've had unique discussions.

 The following excerpt from the 1974 USTA Handbook and the bio on Eddie Davis:

 Both heredity and environment played a part in producing Eddie's ability. His father owned horses; his uncle Olin Davis has been a fine driver since the '40's; and his great uncle J.M. Davis owned many winners. Then there's his cousin, Medford Davis, Jr., who is owner of the farm near Smyrna where Davis trains. Med is not only a partner, but an owner, groom, repairman, part time trainer and general advisor. Eddie's training began after he finished elementary school and later he worked for the legendary Jim Stokely. After four years of grooming, Davis got a provisional license at Brandywine and the next year at Liberty Bell, Judge Milt Taylor gave him his "A" license.

Davis is a horseman and a family man and solves any conflicts by taking his wife Janice and their two children, Eddie, Jr. (7) and Penny Lynn (5) with him to both raceways and training track.
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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2009, 06:25:57 PM »

Dam , I can't get anything right.
Please post pictures of Serena, Vanessa, and Lew  Williams and see if I can pick out the driver of Whata Baron.
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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2009, 07:17:28 PM »

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Next time you email Judy Davis ask her if this sounds familiar.
Seems that nearly forty years ago  a young man from the Midwest was racing at Atlantic City. Working in the program dept was a charming young lady named Judy.
With much time on his hands the young man every morning would go to the program office to get a program. There he meet the young lady. Soon he asked her out for a date. She only laughed. The young man says "whats so dam funny". She says "aren't you gay".
"hell no what makes you think so".
"Well the program director is gay so we all thought you were his"
"No I come up here to get a program and get to know you better".

They soon became good friends.
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