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therussmeister
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« on: December 02, 2009, 10:53:19 PM »

With the Hawthorne turf season officially over; according to my count they ran a total of 48 turf races this year; nine in the spring, and 39 this fall. I find myself wondering how much it costs to maintain the turf course.
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2009, 11:06:49 PM »

Russ:

This was an unusual year as far as weather - I think they were rained off practially the entire month of October, plus they got a late start in April.  A typical year is more like 75 races in the fall, and 20 or 25 in the Spring.
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 08:50:55 AM »

Russ,

It costs more than you think.  It's hard to keep it looking good once things get started because its too narrow they don't have the width and portable rail like @ AP.  Overall the grass is quite thick.  I think they are trying to dormant seed and topdress now hoping for recovery by next spring.  Also, still not sure about the drainage, sems to still be puddles near the finish line.

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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2009, 11:13:55 AM »

They do have a moveable rail at Hawthorne - O feet (the old "hedge"); 10 ft. and 20 ft.

The issue this year was the unusually wet October.  Think of how hard pressed they must have been to take the Carey and the Indian Maid off the turf on Gold Cup - that had to cost them tens if not hundreds of thousands in handle after the scratches.

They were able to keep the Derby on turf the next week, but even there it was a pretty soft course.

The killer was all the rain the final week of November that forced them off the turf after one race Saturday and then to close the course (they were writing extras for the following week - this week - but abandoned that after Saturday's races were called off the lawn).

As I said, if you look back a year ago, they ran well more on the turf and got ehir moneys worth out of it.  This year, not so much, but I think it was a fluke.

It is worth them keeping a turf course (in case that was your point).
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2009, 07:29:00 PM »

Actually my point was, I think Hawthorne should get a few more weeks in September. I think the Arlington meet kind of drags after Labor Day.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 03:15:40 PM »

This is about 3 years worth of stats for races taken off the grass.
HAW 275 carded 105 switched to dirt
AP  882 carded   164 switched to dirt
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 10:41:46 PM »

This is about 3 years worth of stats for races taken off the grass.
HAW 275 carded 105 switched to dirt
AP  882 carded   164 switched to dirt

Thanks NYRA--That should put a damper on those who think AP is too quick to pull races of the turf
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