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samstar
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« on: November 21, 2009, 05:51:33 PM » |
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Anyone know where you can get compounded omeprazole inexpensively without a script?
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casandra1
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2009, 02:43:41 PM » |
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I thought Henry Lester carries it. But you can get the real stuff off ebay for 29 a tube
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casandra1
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2009, 02:45:04 PM » |
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724-916-4507. call harry bush. he is the father of steve bush the trainer at meadows. he has the best stuff better than ulcerguard, and the bnest leg paint. i have ordered from him all year and it is by far superior product. he will take care of you
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speed shop
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2009, 08:22:13 PM » |
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Has anyone tried the omeprazole paste made by Nature Vet? I see they have it on horsemedsonline but I have not bitten the bullet and bought it yet. Let us know if someone has ordered and tried please.
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samstar
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2009, 08:42:44 PM » |
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At $30.00 per day, that sounds like a pretty expensive tratment.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2009, 12:18:59 AM » |
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Anyone know where you can get compounded omeprazole inexpensively without a script?
try this instead: Beneficial May be Beneficial: Depletion or interference—The medication may deplete or interfere with the absorption or function of the nutrient. Taking these nutrients may help replenish them. Folic acid Vitamin B12* Beneficial May be Beneficial: Side effect reduction/prevention—Taking these supplements may help reduce the likelihood and/or severity of a potential side effect caused by the medication. Cranberry* Supportive interaction None known Reduced drug absorption/bioavailability None known Adverse interaction None known An asterisk (*) next to an item in the summary indicates that the interaction is supported only by weak, fragmentary, and/or contradictory scientific evidence. Omeprazole Interactions with Dietary Supplements Folic acid Folic acid is needed by the body to utilize vitamin B12. Antacids, including omeprazole, inhibit folic acid absorption.1 People taking antacids are advised to supplement with folic acid. Vitamin B12 interferes with the absorption of vitamin B12 from food (though not from supplements) in some2 3 4 5 but not all6 7 studies. A true deficiency state, resulting in vitamin B12-deficiency anemia, has only been reported in one case.8 The fall in vitamin B12 status may result from the decrease in stomach acid required for vitamin B12 absorption from food caused by the drug.9 This problem may possibly be averted by drinking acidic juices when eating foods containing vitamin B12.10 However, all people taking omeprazole need to either supplement with vitamin B12 or have their vitamin B12 status checked on a yearly basis. Even relatively small amounts of vitamin B12 such as 10–50 mcg per day, are likely to protect against drug induced vitamin depletion. Omeprazole Interactions with Herbs Cranberry (Vaccinium marocarpon) People taking omeprazole may increase absorption of dietary vitamin B12 by drinking cranberry juice or other acidic liquids with vitamin B12-containing foods.11
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speed shop
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2009, 12:25:15 AM » |
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The Nature Vet Omeprazole isn't 30.00 per day. One tube will last like 4-5 days if you read the directions.
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2009, 11:54:56 PM » |
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What's a good price for Gastroguard? I see a site that has it for $400/mo. but I think once there on it for a bit you can use 1/2 tube/day and get by with $200/mo
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samstar
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2009, 09:35:39 PM » |
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What's a good price for Gastroguard? I see a site that has it for $400/mo. but I think once there on it for a bit you can use 1/2 tube/day and get by with $200/mo
Your ver hould be able to sell you generic Omeprazole for half what gastro gaurd costs.
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 01:37:26 AM » |
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I ordered the Canadian Gastroguard for $400 so I will see how that works.
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samstar
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 02:10:40 PM » |
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You can dicker with horse pre race.
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2009, 05:35:47 PM » |
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I received my Canadian Gastroguard and other than a different label, it's the same stuff I used to get. I even tasted it and it tastes the same. Horses are taking it well so all we need now is some victories!
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2009, 09:04:44 PM » |
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Speed shop, how much were you paying for generic gastro gaurd before?
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2009, 11:18:25 PM » |
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It was like $10/tube for the generic stuff but it wasn't worth $2.00 if you ask me.
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speed shop
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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2010, 04:06:45 PM » |
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I checked it out and it looks like garbage. The dosage is no where even close. They are trying to make it cheap so people will buy but there is no way it's strong enough. It might have something to do with the prescription? I'm assuming if you keep the dosage down you might get by with not needing a script. You will need to feed about 5-6 sachets to equal one tube of gastroguard though. I'm not sold on it JMO
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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2010, 09:45:17 PM » |
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I checked it out and it looks like garbage. The dosage is no where even close. They are trying to make it cheap so people will buy but there is no way it's strong enough. It might have something to do with the prescription? I'm assuming if you keep the dosage down you might get by with not needing a script. You will need to feed about 5-6 sachets to equal one tube of gastroguard though. I'm not sold on it JMO
One tube of Gastroguard contains 2.28g of Omeprazole. At the recommended dosage of 4mg/kg, the average horse would probably take about 2g. Three packets or pills from this place at 700mg per packet would equal 2.1g of Omeprazole at about $5.00 per dose.
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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2010, 09:49:13 PM » |
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It's a totally different product with the pills or granules as they call them. How the heck are you supposed to get them in a horse every day?
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2010, 07:37:03 PM » |
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I am still looking for a deal on generic Omeprozole. I paid $300 for 15 tubes containing about 5 -6 grams of omeprozole per tube. I feed 1/4 tuberper day maintenance. I think that the gastro gaurd and canadian gastro gaurd only contain 2.5 grams of omeprozole per tube.
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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2010, 08:21:18 PM » |
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$300 for 15 tubes is 20 per tube. Why not buy 2.5 omeprazol for 10.00?
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« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2010, 08:30:18 PM » |
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It's a totally different product with the pills or granules as they call them. How the heck are you supposed to get them in a horse every day?
Pills, use a balling gun or one of those quick sticks, they have them at Big D's. Granules, works best in a mash if they eat it, or mix it up with something sticky and dose them. Used both of these products, the idea is to get them into the horse without destroying the coating before it gets to the stomach, a little difficult at times, but have seen a difference if you can get it done. Plus the price is so much better then Gastro Gard.
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samstar
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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2010, 08:53:04 PM » |
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$300 for 15 tubes is 20 per tube. Why not buy 2.5 omeprazol for 10.00?
The tubes I am buyihg are 5 to 6 omeprazol.
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« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2010, 11:56:47 PM » |
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Precision Pharmacy - Omeprazole powder, apple flavor. 100 scoops per jar. 1.4g per scoop. $160-$175 per jar. 
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« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2010, 02:15:22 PM » |
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Question for all who have used omeprazole.........have you had side effects with any horses? Sole of hoof problems...hair growing in spots a little longer than others...sweat in different spots......loss of weight......dull eyes.........I am just naming a few and am trying to pin the problem so we can avoid it in the future.
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samstar
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« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2010, 05:15:25 PM » |
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Anyone know where you can get compounded omeprazole inexpensively without a script? Ask your vet to write you a script and I will e mail you a place where you canget it dirt cheap. If your vet won't write you a script, he is a pig. Script needs vets phone # and state license number on it and the lab will call him first time.
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« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2010, 05:33:08 PM » |
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Okay so maybe none of you had problems with omeprazole but I am willing to sit down and listen to the answer. Our horse came home three months ago and was in extremely poor shape. Much worse than he had ever been. He had been on omeprazole daily for a good amount of time and I really believe it had to do with his condition. Listen to the medication ads on tv and the radio and all the warnings at the end. He has FINALLY come around to doing better and running and playing with his buddies. I will definitely avoid omeprazole in the future. If their stomach for whatever reason won't take to racing then they will not race.
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samstar
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« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2010, 06:30:05 PM » |
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I haven't had a problem but I am certainly interested in any side effects. Keep me posted. I give it daily to my best horse.
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« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2011, 12:15:35 PM » |
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Came across a really good article in the January 2011 issue of Horse Illustrated about gastric ulcers.
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BabyFireFly
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« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2011, 12:33:53 PM » |
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I saw that - talks alot about bacterial ulcers I believe.
Had a very ill horse that lived on stomach medicine for years, when he got sick he was put on heavy duty antibiotics and since the stomach medicine conflicted with the medications he was taken off of all stomach meds. After two months on the antibiotics I was sure his stomach would be shot, but his eating was better than ever after having the treatment - licking his bowl and yelling for more. Sadly the illness came back ten fold and we just lost him on Friday - so we won't ever have the chance to run a scope to see if the antibiotics contributed to the healing of the ulcers.
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« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2011, 03:12:56 PM » |
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According to the article: Horses have 2 different types of stomach lining.The lower portion is lined with glandular mucosa which is well protected from the acid. The upper two-thirds is vulnerable to acid. This is usually where ulcers occur. When the stomach has food in it, the forage absorbs the acid and keeps it from splashing around. A horse exercising on an empty stomach causes the acid to splash up onto the vulnerable lining. The only FDA approved treatment for horses is omeprazole, sold under the brand name Gastrogard and Ulcergard. Gastrogard is higher dose and used to treat an existing ulcer. Ulcergard is lower dose and used to prevent ulcers. Gastrogard is designed to be administered for up to 28 days and has a 92% success rate. The real challenge is to make management changes so the ulcers don't return... or occur in the first place. According to studies, feeding alfalfa hay helps to buffer stomach acid. The high calcium content is believed to be the secret ingredient. Alfalfa cubes/pellets and beet pulp work also. It's recommended to feed a small amount, about 2 lbs, ONE HALF HOUR before exercise. Apparently the timing is important so the forage has time to reach the stomach. UlcerGard is not intended for day after day administration but can be useful in situations where you anticipate increased stress.
10 Anti Ulcer Strategies recommended: 1. Allow free choice access to pasture or hay. Try to keep some forage in the stomach at all times. 2. Make feed changes gradually to allow bacteria in hindgut time to adapt. 3. Feed small meals often. Four feedings at regular intervals optimum. 4. Avoid oral electrolytes. 5. Provide as much turn-out time as possible to reduce stress. 6. Reduce the amount of grain. Fiber preferable to carbs. 7. Oats better than corn or barley. 8. Avoid NSAIDs, bute and banamine. Especially give one OR the other, not both at the same time. 9. Acidic dietary supplements such as apple cider vinegar should be avoided. 10. Try to slow your horses grain intake. If your horse bolts his feed, mix grain with beet pulp or put smooth rocks in the feed tub. The idea is to increase saliva which helps buffer acids.
In the future, it may be possible to diagnose an ulcer by analyzing sucrose levels in blood and urine. Right now the only way to definitely diagnose is by gastroscopy.
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« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2011, 10:27:45 PM » |
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BFF did he have the hpylori bacteria?
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