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Author Topic: Training- recovering from a long ship  (Read 5781 times)
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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2009, 11:30:00 AM »

Do you train?

Why do you feel compelled to trivialize an honest discussion?


No doubt....wanting to start an argument over a basic training discussion.....for what?  screwy bang head
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« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2009, 11:51:10 AM »

If you think you can learn how to train a horse is by reading "friendly posts" on the internet - you are the type of person people want to race against.

That post was so weird.  Bad news and good news, I suppose.  It may have been a compliment.  Post went up ... then a Conditioning/Training Official Forum was born.   trophy
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« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2009, 01:55:40 PM »

That post was so weird.  Bad news and good news, I suppose.  It may have been a compliment.  Post went up ... then a Conditioning/Training Official Forum was born.   trophy


IT WENT UP AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT WORK.
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« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2009, 07:21:03 PM »

IT WENT UP AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT WORK.
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« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2009, 07:38:48 PM »

Most trainers are more then willing to share their opinions when you ask for advice.  Perhaps there are some proprietory formulas that won't be devulged but all in all  most trainers are pretty good guys. (and gals)
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« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2009, 07:40:39 PM »

Just a little note to throw out there.. When you know that a long ship is on the schedule the old timers would give the horse a drenching with mineral oil and a strong shot of bute or banamine to make the trip a little more enjoyable.. The horse would usually get to it's destination no worse for wear and usually ready to eat whatever was put in front of it... an ounce of prevent.......... light bulb
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« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2009, 11:50:47 PM »

The Conditioning/Training Forum is here to stay.  I'm enjoying this.  I'll keep up with what little I know.  Congrats fellow posters!

Thanks John W for joining in.  Good suggestion on the pre-ship treatment.  At some point I'd like to discuss Bute vs. Banamine if others are interested (little deviation from your point but may be a good discussion).  Welcome, all the same.
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« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2009, 06:47:32 AM »

The Conditioning/Training Forum is here to stay.  I'm enjoying this.  I'll keep up with what little I know.  Congrats fellow posters!

Thanks John W for joining in.  Good suggestion on the pre-ship treatment.  At some point I'd like to discuss Bute vs. Banamine if others are interested (little deviation from your point but may be a good discussion).  Welcome, all the same.
Start the thread!  I've got lot's to about the subject.
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2009, 05:34:26 PM »

Well, He has had time enough to recover from the ship.  I trained him in 201 on Thursday last half in 59 last 1/4 in 29 and he is in to go on Tuesday.  Preferred pace but he drew inside.  I hope I get a nice check
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« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2009, 08:12:31 AM »

Well, He has had time enough to recover from the ship.  I trained him in 201 on Thursday last half in 59 last 1/4 in 29 and he is in to go on Tuesday.  Preferred pace but he drew inside.  I hope I get a nice check


Good Luck Samstar ... hope he does good.   clover
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« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2009, 08:57:48 AM »

Good Luck Samstar ... hope he does good.   clover
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« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2009, 10:16:56 PM »

Art cleaned up his feed bucket both meals today.  Just in time.  I think the Ulceer Medicine might do the trick.
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« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2009, 12:55:49 AM »

Hope you get a clean trip, maybe a rail shot for his first start for ya and a check lol. What ulcer meds did you go with if i may ask ? Great luck tuesday !
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« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2009, 09:23:33 PM »

Hope you get a clean trip, maybe a rail shot for his first start for ya and a check lol. What ulcer meds did you go with if i may ask ? Great luck tuesday !

I put him on omeprazole.  The vet gave me generic made by precision pharmacy. He finished a  nice third in the preferred.  I can't ask for better than that as I expect him to be a winners over horse.  He is a very nice horse and I am happy to have him.
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« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2009, 11:14:00 PM »

I put him on omeprazole.  The vet gave me generic made by precision pharmacy. He finished a  nice third in the preferred.  I can't ask for better than that as I expect him to be a winners over horse.  He is a very nice horse and I am happy to have him.

He raced real good.  Congratulations.   trophy Nice job.
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« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2009, 11:52:37 PM »

I was hoping a rail shot and you got it lol. Nice job Samstar, good first start, sometimes shippers from Florida take some adjustment time but he raced very well. Congrats
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« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2009, 01:00:34 PM »

Meadows is shut down next week.  Kind of hurts to get 1 start and then have to sit out.
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« Reply #42 on: November 19, 2009, 12:01:01 PM »

Glad he raced good, Samstar. Please keep us posted on his prigress.
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« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2009, 01:55:10 PM »

On Ulcer medicine for 6 days and he is cleaning up his food with relish!
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« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2009, 03:24:33 PM »

On Ulcer medicine for 6 days and he is cleaning up his food with relish!

Good to hear, you got that under control in no time all.
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« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2009, 08:33:50 PM »

Good to hear, you got that under control in no time all.

Ten years  ago if someone told me horses got ulcers I  would have said that

"MY HORSE GIVE  ULCERS, THEY DON'T GET THEM"
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« Reply #46 on: November 20, 2009, 11:21:10 AM »

Ten years  ago if someone told me horses got ulcers I  would have said that

"MY HORSE GIVE  ULCERS, THEY DON'T GET THEM"
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« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2009, 11:53:36 AM »

My trainer used to tell me ... your horse tries weekly .... VERY WEAKLY !!

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« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2009, 07:44:30 AM »

Samstar, Suicide Mare is right, time for the papaya juice:
http://www.stomachsoother.com/article1.asp
With so much emphasis placed on competition and performance, many horses are developing gastrointestinal problems. Anything that causes stress such as hauling, competing, stall rest, or breeding can lead to problems with the GI tract, including sour stomach and ulcers. Several symptoms of gastrointestinal ailments include going off feed, colic, weight loss, poor coat quality, sour attitude, lethargy, or abnormal behavior. It is important to consult your veterinarian regarding these symptoms to ensure they are not life threatening. Many horse owners who have observed these symptoms in the past have relied on alternative supplements to help keep their horses’ gastrointestinal tracts healthy. Now there is something new to try.i]

Okay, back to home remedies.  Before the Holidays, I sent my hubby on a mission to find what is now being called "Potpaya" juice ... (the hubster loves twisting words for a chuckle).  Cannot find Potpaya juice anywhere.  We're using an over-the-counter mint-flavored ant-acid.  Horse loves it.  He never was confirmed with ulcers but sometimes has the symptoms so this is preventative.  Our search for the illusive "juice" will continue.
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« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2009, 08:29:28 AM »

Okay, back to home remedies.  Before the Holidays, I sent my hubby on a mission to find what is now being called "Potpaya" juice ... (the hubster loves twisting words for a chuckle).  Cannot find Potpaya juice anywhere.  We're using an over-the-counter mint-flavored ant-acid.  Horse loves it.  He never was confirmed with ulcers but sometimes has the symptoms so this is preventative.  Our search for the illusive "juice" will continue.
For human consumption it's available in some health food stores in California (and maybe elsewhere) but the easiest thing, Mare, is just buy a whole potpaya Grin at the local grocery store and put it in a blender with a little water and make your own.
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