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big wally
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« on: February 27, 2006, 07:36:32 PM »

On Track handle
FRI 228k
SAt 204k
SUN 167K
MON 94 K
TUE will be worse than monday 62 horses

Last year they averaged 227 (I Think)
Purse cut?
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2006, 07:51:47 PM »

That sucks. Are you sure of those figures wally? If so, it's a HUGE loss for them.
The last thing I want to see is purse cuts. Please say it ain't so..
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2006, 08:05:33 PM »

Look on Equibase Charts. I do not recall any Chicago tracks making these numbers public on a daily basis but Hawthorne is. Why?
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2006, 09:20:25 PM »

On Track handle
FRI 228k
SAt 204k
SUN 167K
MON 94 K
TUE will be worse than monday 62 horses

Last year they averaged 227 (I Think)
Purse cut?

I don't think Monday cards are designed to appeal to on track bettors. If they cared about on track they wouldn't run Mondays. That's for the desperate simulcast bettors out there who have nothing better than Philly Park, Tampa, Turf Paradise, and the like on Mondays.

As was pointed out in another thread, the $227k/day average was Fall meet, not Spring. Unless you know what last Spring's average was, particularly on Mondays (did they run Mondays last year?), it's kind of hard to make a comparison statement. But you can say $94k is pretty puny.
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2006, 09:38:22 PM »

I don't think Monday cards are designed to appeal to on track bettors. If they cared about on track they wouldn't run Mondays. That's for the desperate simulcast bettors out there who have nothing better than Philly Park, Tampa, Turf Paradise, and the like on Mondays.

As was pointed out in another thread, the $227k/day average was Fall meet, not Spring. Unless you know what last Spring's average was, particularly on Mondays (did they run Mondays last year?), it's kind of hard to make a comparison statement. But you can say $94k is pretty puny.


5 and 6 hoss fields ain't no good except if you are an owner  dude
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2006, 10:04:56 PM »

I don't think Monday cards are designed to appeal to on track bettors. If they cared about on track they wouldn't run Mondays. That's for the desperate simulcast bettors out there who have nothing better than Philly Park, Tampa, Turf Paradise, and the like on Mondays.

As was pointed out in another thread, the $227k/day average was Fall meet, not Spring. Unless you know what last Spring's average was, particularly on Mondays (did they run Mondays last year?), it's kind of hard to make a comparison statement. But you can say $94k is pretty puny.


Fall was $179 in 2005. In the Spring, 2001 the  last year at sportmans it was 210k then in jumped to around 240K then I think it was around 220K and 230K for the years 2003-2005. Lets jump to this year, first four days around 170K, tomorrow you have 62 and Friday 71 horse entered.  Its only a ten week meet they better not dig themselves a hole they cant get of. The good news is they did out handle Beulah.
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2006, 10:12:25 PM »

The NJC heads insisted that Monday and Tuesday live is better than Wednesday and Thursday. Hawthornes meet in the fall will be dark Monday and Tuesday.

I agree with you wally and y'all..this doesn't look good. With the full labor workload and all facilities operating at full force for live days the expenses are huge. Hopefully in a few weeks the field size will pick-up when some of the other southern/western tracks begin to close. Bigger fields will help raise the live handle, but not that much. Jeez..what a pickle they're in.
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