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« on: September 16, 2009, 06:13:45 AM »

I can't believe you guys aren't talking up your little trotter more. I was at Mohawk and he sure looked good taking off in the last quarter. Can he beat Muscle Hill..well thats a huge chore, but he is obviously in peak form, and if Muscle Hill is off his game a bit..Mohawk is also been like a Saratoga to a lot of champions, remember Dewey lost his first race here last year....
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 08:23:39 AM »

Like RTP said in the other thread, this guy is super sharp and if Muscle Hill is off a little bit... who knows. Judge Joe also looked pretty good last week. I do think it's interesting that Dave, who doesn't particularly love traveling, is blowing off Super Night. To drive for second?
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 08:47:24 AM »

Like RTP said in the other thread, this guy is super sharp and if Muscle Hill is off a little bit... who knows. Judge Joe also looked pretty good last week. I do think it's interesting that Dave, who doesn't particularly love traveling, is blowing off Super Night. To drive for second?
Well depending what others they have planned for SR till the end of the year, Davie can make more money just driving this one.
Seriously, how many winners do you think he would have had on Super Night ??
some of the serious contenders and potential 3/5 shots are already committed to other drivers.
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 09:10:09 AM »

Like RTP said in the other thread, this guy is super sharp and if Muscle Hill is off a little bit... who knows. Judge Joe also looked pretty good last week. I do think it's interesting that Dave, who doesn't particularly love traveling, is blowing off Super Night. To drive for second?
            Your right about Judge Joe I really expect this horse to get real good in a few more starts .  He also has a lot of potential especially next year . You are right about Dave not liking traveling and I know why !  He flew to New Jersey drive my horse in the graduate series in 1986 and I doubt he will ever forget the flight . It was one of those shit in your pants flights , raining like hell so bad the plane had to land at La Guardia !  He arrived just in time to make the post parade .

                                               RTP
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 09:36:28 AM »

I have been following Southern Rocketop since late last year.

The one night with decent odds, I don't bet.

As you know, anything can happen in horse racing.

Good luck to all the connections.

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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 11:07:40 AM »

I have been following Southern Rocketop since late last year.

The one night with decent odds, I don't bet.

As you know, anything can happen in horse racing.

Good luck to all the connections.

Kenneth 
"decent odds" In light of his previous race against Muscle Hill and the lack of speed in that elim, I thought it was a gift.
We will be out there on Super Night..Let us know if you can make it Huh?
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 06:28:38 PM »

he cannot beat musle hill. superhorses dont lose very often
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2009, 11:50:18 PM »

he cannot beat musle hill. superhorses dont lose very often
Probably not...He will, however, trot very well in the final..Very good now and the driver change to Magee has helped. 
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2009, 12:16:03 AM »

As good as I think Southern Rockettop is, he will not hit the ticket this week. Explosive matter made his first start in a month after being sick and will be better and Judge Joe was awesome last week and had no room. Take Muscle Hill and put him on top on Explosive matter and Judge Joe in Ex's and Tri's and keep punching till the bell sounds and just stay at the window to cash
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2009, 08:44:59 AM »

As good as I think Southern Rockettop is, he will not hit the ticket this week. Explosive matter made his first start in a month after being sick and will be better and Judge Joe was awesome last week and had no room. Take Muscle Hill and put him on top on Explosive matter and Judge Joe in Ex's and Tri's and keep punching till the bell sounds and just stay at the window to cash
Talk is cheap....After the draw put your  dollar where your mouth is.
Race is Sat. Both of us will be out at Balmoral with a group of enthusiats.
I say he hits the ticket...Loser buys a round for the group that is out with us that night.
What do you think Laddie ?? Are you in or out Huh beer beer beer beer
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2009, 09:10:15 AM »

Talk is cheap....After the draw put your  dollar where your mouth is.
Race is Sat. Both of us will be out at Balmoral with a group of enthusiats.
I say he hits the ticket...Loser buys a round for the group that is out with us that night.
What do you think Laddie ?? Are you in or out Huh beer beer beer beer
Draw is out and he has the 2 hole. and you are on! I will be putting my money on the race as well and he won't be on my ex or tri tickets
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2009, 09:29:48 AM »

Draw is out and he has the 2 hole. and you are on! I will be putting my money on the race as well and he won't be on my ex or tri tickets
  beer beer beer beer now we are talking racing Laddie..
My tickets will have SR on them...By the way...Think Erv will have a big night with some chalky ones...Looking very closely at some of the consolation races..Hope to get some value on the ones that I like.  dollar dollar dollar dollar
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2009, 10:27:51 AM »

There is a tendency to overbet  dollar dollar the "champs."

I think if SR is better than 10:1, crossedfingers you have to bet this horse carrot carrot carrot.

Remember my lower extremedities are bigger doh than my upper frontal lobe.

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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2009, 10:33:12 AM »

highly doubt he hits the ticket, he wont be on mine

If Seras lets his horse loose, (unlike McCarthy at DuQuoin) then he'll run away from Rocky and closers will pick up the pieces from the back......could be a decent tri if rocky is off the ticket
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2009, 02:55:27 PM »

highly doubt he hits the ticket, he wont be on mine

If Seras lets his horse loose, (unlike McCarthy at DuQuoin) then he'll run away from Rocky and closers will pick up the pieces from the back......could be a decent tri if rocky is off the ticket
SR comes home consistently in 28...So even Sears turns MH loose and he draws off SR will be sitting in the two-hole and comming home in a 28
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2009, 08:16:27 PM »

maybe. but i dont see it playing out that way,,,,like in the Trotting Derby at Du Quoin
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2009, 08:21:18 PM »

SR comes home consistently in 28...So even Sears turns MH loose and he draws off SR will be sitting in the two-hole and comming home in a 28


Judge Joe will be sitting in the 2 hole.Horse keeps getting better after Takter and co bought him.

Muscle Hill / Judge Joe exacta returns $6.00.
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2009, 10:25:49 PM »


Judge Joe will be sitting in the 2 hole.Horse keeps getting better after Takter and co bought him.

Muscle Hill / Judge Joe exacta returns $6.00.
Another....Dinner says that does not happen and my scenario does in fact play out.  Pm you a couple of places in close proximity that are very nice.
What do you think Laddie Huh What the hell a $50 dinner is what I bet in every race 100 xs a day.... nyah nyah nyah nyah
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2009, 06:44:07 AM »


      I love this game because we all have our opinions and we all back them up unlike some of those t-bred guys who make mind bets !!

     I normally don't bet big races , but this race looks like stealing and my buddy Pezz who's opinion I really respect and I differ on the throw out horse . I think Explosive matter is nothing because I think it was more than sickness or the layoff in his last start . He was totally empty and looked awful as far as his trotting stride and it was a sprint to the wire NO EXCUSE to at least not run even the last quarter .

      I think a saver box ticket on the the muscle , rocket , judge is a cinch bet and then just pound Muscle on top of the other two !!  One more saver ticket with Muscle second !!    I would bet it like this .

        10 dollar box = 60

        10 dollar part wheel with muscle second = 40

        120    Muscle - Rocket - Judge

         80     Muscle - Judge - Rocket

          1 $   tri      Rocket Judge Rocket Judge - all

          Just in case some unforseen break occurrs .

                                                RTP
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2009, 08:26:51 AM »

Best of luck to the Rocket.  Always like to see a horse that you have watched race in person many times do well on a bigger stage.  There is no doubt that Muscle Hill is far the best and should win.  I won't bet this race, but they are trotters and even if Muscle Hill is highly unlikely to break stride, others can and interfere with him.  Also, he is an animal and any animal can have a bad day.  Without being sick enough to have the vet scratch him, it's possible he may not be 100% on any given day.  I have seen other super horses upset in Canada in the fall. Some of my biggest scores have come betting against super horses that can't lose.   You have to pick your times, but the beauty of it is, you don't have to bet a lot to win a lot.
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2009, 08:57:34 AM »

      I love this game because we all have our opinions and we all back them up unlike some of those t-bred guys who make mind bets !!

     I normally don't bet big races , but this race looks like stealing and my buddy Pezz who's opinion I really respect and I differ on the throw out horse . I think Explosive matter is nothing because I think it was more than sickness or the layoff in his last start . He was totally empty and looked awful as far as his trotting stride and it was a sprint to the wire NO EXCUSE to at least not run even the last quarter .

      I think a saver box ticket on the the muscle , rocket , judge is a cinch bet and then just pound Muscle on top of the other two !!  One more saver ticket with Muscle second !!    I would bet it like this .

        10 dollar box = 60

        10 dollar part wheel with muscle second = 40

        120    Muscle - Rocket - Judge

         80     Muscle - Judge - Rocket

          1 $   tri      Rocket Judge Rocket Judge - all

          Just in case some unforseen break occurrs .

                                                RTP
Absolutely correct PHil. And thank you for saying that you respect my opinion means a lot. And wether any of us are right or wrong, we won't come on here saying I told you so. Its just the opposite, if we are wrong, we come on here and rip ourselves  Grin. Good luck Saturday my friend
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2009, 09:07:55 AM »

Absolutely correct PHil. And thank you for saying that you respect my opinion means a lot. And wether any of us are right or wrong, we won't come on here saying I told you so. Its just the opposite, if we are wrong, we come on here and rip ourselves  Grin. Good luck Saturday my friend
and that my friend is the bottom line...We bet our opinions with real  dollar
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2009, 09:24:17 AM »

and that my friend is the bottom line...We bet our opinions with real  dollar


When someone has so many opinions in one race it is hard to bet them all. maroon maroon maroon
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2009, 10:35:40 AM »

When someone has so many opinions in one race it is hard to bet them all. maroon maroon maroon
    You could make mind bets like those loons and then say you would have won !   You know them loons know the winner after the race is over !   maroon

                                                 RTP
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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2009, 10:41:30 AM »

And oh yeah, forgot to mention, this race ends the early pick 4, making it a pick 3. Good Luck Everyone
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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2009, 12:32:52 PM »

Morning Line on Sr is 12:1.

This could be interesting.

Kenneth
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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2009, 12:43:20 PM »

Morning Line on Sr is 12:1.

This could be interesting.

Kenneth
Agree.. still no respect from our friends North of the border for our Il. Bred.
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« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2009, 01:44:20 PM »

Agree.. still no respect from our friends North of the border for our Il. Bred.

I personally think 12-1 is generous.He is listed as 3rd choice whcih he is IMO.If Muscle is on or near his game it's a battle for 2nd for the rest.If Explosive is back on his game which I do not think he is then the battle would be for third.
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« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2009, 09:13:56 PM »

I see the race exactly the same way RTP does. However, I'll probably be rolling the dice with the Judge on top and hoping for a nice score. As great as Muscle Hill is, they all lose some time.
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« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2009, 09:13:32 PM »

SR finishes 3rd to muscle hill and explosive matter
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« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2009, 09:23:31 PM »

i do think he backed the half down to much he might of been 2nd if he rolled a bit more but who knows ...
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« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2009, 10:48:00 PM »

Clearly a nice horse. Not in the league of the winner, but nobody is.
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« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2009, 01:00:06 AM »

Clearly a nice horse. Not in the league of the winner, but nobody is.
Well said...Muscle Hill is just too much..
But SR clearly raced very well a credit to Il. racing.
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« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2009, 01:45:51 AM »

I see the race exactly the same way RTP does. However, I'll probably be rolling the dice with the Judge on top and hoping for a nice score. As great as Muscle Hill is, they all lose some time.
            Just goes to show everyone how wrong I can be !  That was a pretty Descent tri payoff , too bad I took a stand against Explosive .

          Pezz was right !    RTP   screwy
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« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2009, 12:03:07 AM »

            Just goes to show everyone how wrong I can be !  That was a pretty Descent tri payoff , too bad I took a stand against Explosive .

          Pezz was right !    RTP   screwy
And I was wrong cause I did not use Rockettop for the tri! That was a nice payout. Ex was ok too
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« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2009, 03:41:54 AM »

trotter makes lotsa cash. owner can now afford to see dentist. momo believes in good dental hygiene.
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« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2009, 08:42:59 AM »

trotter makes lotsa cash. owner can now afford to see dentist. momo believes in good dental hygiene.
Since you brought it up, have seen him and his crew at least 4 or 5 xs at Balmoral when SR has raced.  Could not agree more.  
Although, in certain states teeth and dental hygiene aren't that big of a deal.
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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2009, 08:53:57 AM »

Clearly a nice horse. Not in the league of the winner, but nobody is.


 thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up
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« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2009, 10:38:55 AM »

Looks like rockettops 1/2 sister is racing in the American national filly 2 yo race at balmoral park tonite . Southern Maebelle and she looks to get some $$$$ along with 2 other Illinois trotters .
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« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2009, 02:07:57 PM »

Looks like rockettops 1/2 sister is racing in the American national filly 2 yo race at balmoral park tonite . Southern Maebelle and she looks to get some $$$$ along with 2 other Illinois trotters .
Good Luck to Maebelle and the Powers connection.
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« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2009, 09:17:03 AM »

Looks like rockettops 1/2 sister is racing in the American national filly 2 yo race at balmoral park tonite . Southern Maebelle and she looks to get some $$$$ along with 2 other Illinois trotters .

Yeah, I saw this. Someone told me about her before her debut. Being a half makes the buzz. Good luck to all those involved.
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