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Author Topic: Horsin' Around Goes Dark  (Read 1695 times)
TommyCh
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« on: February 23, 2006, 02:33:25 PM »

From Joe DAK:

Horsin' Around TV Fails to Garner Proper Funding; Will Not Air in 2006
Due to a shortage of local industry funding, Horsin' Around TV will not return to the Comcast SportsNet airwaves in 2006.

The horseracing magazine show fashioned by DAK Productions, Inc. debuted with a 14-week run on Fox Sports Net Chicago in August 2003. The program expanded to 35 weeks (mid March through mid November) on the same station in 2004, and following the lead of the Cubs, White Sox, Bulls and Blackhawks, transferred to Comcast SportsNet for a similar run in 2005.

Typically a half-hour show, Horsin' Around TV included weekend previews of local and national races, feature stories, and educational segments. The program expanded to an hour on specific Saturdays to cover events such as the Arlington Million, the Illinois Derby and Super Night.

"I had every intention of expanding the show to a full hour format for all 35 weeks this year, and was moving full speed ahead with those plans, but unfortunately it didn't work out," said the show's founder, producer and host Joe Kristufek. "Local horse racing is losing more and more visibility, and if the industry isn't careful, the game is going slowly fade from public consciousness."

"I feel sorry for the fans," Kristufek continued. "We built a solid following during the course of our 86 broadcasts, and I think the viewers really appreciated what I was trying to accomplish with the show. Illinois racing is in a transition period, and hopefully this is just a hiatus, and not the finish line. My love for the game remains strong, and I will continue to share that excitement through various outlets."
With the end of Horsin' Around TV comes the elimination of www.dakracing.com, a full service website dedicated to Illinois horse racing. The site attracted an average of 6,000 unique users and 1,800 regular users each month.

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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2006, 02:54:46 PM »

I am sorry to hear that the show will not be renewed. I enjoyed watching the program.

On the other hand it probably was not the most astute move for Maven to tell the world that "I bet mostly on a phone account." p. 223 "Six Secrets of Successful Bettors."
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2006, 02:56:43 PM »

Sort of saw this coming, there was a message up on the site for the past week that the site had been suspended.  Figured the show might have difficulty going ahead with the chaos that is Illinois racing right now.

Too bad.  Joe made a big attempt to put life into Illinois racing, but you just can't stop a train wreck from happening.  Maybe racing is ending as we know it.  Thanks for the effort, Joe!

Just think, all we will have left here will be John Frank and his friends insulting each other.
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2006, 03:15:56 PM »

Joe is going to be taking over Christine's job. Arlington Park racing analyst. he said he would be able to handle all of it.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2006, 03:30:25 PM »

Joe taking that job is a no-brainer.
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2006, 03:33:32 PM »

From Joe DAK:

Horsin' Around TV Fails to Garner Proper Funding; Will Not Air in 2006
Due to a shortage of local industry funding, Horsin' Around TV will not return to the Comcast SportsNet airwaves in 2006.

The horseracing magazine show fashioned by DAK Productions, Inc. debuted with a 14-week run on Fox Sports Net Chicago in August 2003. The program expanded to 35 weeks (mid March through mid November) on the same station in 2004, and following the lead of the Cubs, White Sox, Bulls and Blackhawks, transferred to Comcast SportsNet for a similar run in 2005.

Typically a half-hour show, Horsin' Around TV included weekend previews of local and national races, feature stories, and educational segments. The program expanded to an hour on specific Saturdays to cover events such as the Arlington Million, the Illinois Derby and Super Night.

"I had every intention of expanding the show to a full hour format for all 35 weeks this year, and was moving full speed ahead with those plans, but unfortunately it didn't work out," said the show's founder, producer and host Joe Kristufek. "Local horse racing is losing more and more visibility, and if the industry isn't careful, the game is going slowly fade from public consciousness."

"I feel sorry for the fans," Kristufek continued. "We built a solid following during the course of our 86 broadcasts, and I think the viewers really appreciated what I was trying to accomplish with the show. Illinois racing is in a transition period, and hopefully this is just a hiatus, and not the finish line. My love for the game remains strong, and I will continue to share that excitement through various outlets."
With the end of Horsin' Around TV comes the elimination of www.dakracing.com, a full service website dedicated to Illinois horse racing. The site attracted an average of 6,000 unique users and 1,800 regular users each month.


Gee, what a shame !  I wonder what Richard Breth has to say on the subject... trotter  TC
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2006, 04:14:28 PM »

Joe would do great at Arlington. It's a shame that the show closed. They made it fun and informative.
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2006, 04:30:33 PM »

Lack of industry funding was listed as the problem.  I believe Thoroughbred and Harness were combined on the show in order to share the financial support to make it cost effective.  With the local Harness racing struggling so badly at Maywood and Balmoral, with the large reductions in the live purses (no offense to our local, loyal Harness fans), I'm speculating that they weren't able to justify their portion of the expenses right now.  If the other tracks were looking at having to essentially double their funding to keep the show going, esp. with the dropping of the TB replay show, I doubt that would happen.  Maybe most or all the parties couldn't justify the expense of the effort.  I personally don't know.

It was a good idea, and a good try, and hopefully Joe and company will be able to try it again in the future.  Sadly, like a lot of extremely avid and loyal handicappers and racing fans and horse owners, we can come up with great ideas for T.V. programs, Computer Programs, Handicapping Software, Databases, Selections Services, Websites and Fans Forums, Train, Ride, Breed, Own and pay to maintain the best horses we can individually or as a group, afford.  But ultimately, precious few if any of us own signifcant shares of the actual races tracks that gain the attention and attempt to earn their money from our betting dollars, the betting dollars of those we attract or advice, or whose horses and their performances stimulate wagering.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2006, 05:30:47 PM »

Doesn't the internet killl alot of these types of shows - if you look at it that way. 20 years ago - a show like this or the replay show were very popular and people would tune in - as there wasn't as easy access to horse racing news as there is today, you basically had the form or shows like this - to keep up with the whole country of racing - now you can read a thousand web sites and get all the info you need.

For example on the Triple Crown trail, Back then the only way to find out if Devils Bag was injured and out of the Derby was to watch the replay show or wait and read it in the form  (and who really buys that just for the news - back then - so if you weren't going to the track the form was usually out and the local show was it)- nowadays we know every time Steviewonerboy or whomeber takes a bad step or coughs you read it online or get it emailed to you by 20 people.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2006, 05:35:10 PM »

Gee, I hate to defend Brethufek...but isn't it obvious to the vast majority that Tricky Dicky Duchy Mergerco., Cicero/Stickney LP, and our beloved harness owners - the Gestapo are ALL poormouthing and refusing to give the fans and horsemen good entertainment and fair purses because they want to get a fat, juicy, bailout in the form of slots at the tracks ?  All of these entities make MILLIONS when the "real" books get reconciled at year's end and all they do is cry, cry, cry.  Why make a few million when you can get the dumb state to give you a MULTIMILLION dollar entitlement ?  No recap shows, no newsmagazines, little press coverage, garbage purses in the "Second City".  I smell a  rat, the kind that you put three coins in and wish to get one of those coins back per 1000 pulls - HELP (as Dave Feldman used to say).   horse   trotter  TC
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2006, 06:27:53 PM »

Lack of industry funding was listed as the problem.  I believe Thoroughbred and Harness were combined on the show in order to share the financial support to make it cost effective.  With the local Harness racing struggling so badly at Maywood and Balmoral, with the large reductions in the live purses (no offense to our local, loyal Harness fans), I'm speculating that they weren't able to justify their portion of the expenses right now.

I'm sure Hawthorne's current cutbacks across the board were also a factor.
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2006, 07:51:00 PM »

Yup, most likely.  One source of funding struggling is tough enough.  If 2 or more, then yup, lights out for now.
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2006, 06:27:17 AM »

Don't worry slots will fix everything.
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2006, 06:59:29 AM »

Don't worry slots will fix everything.
Yeah, it will keep every descendant of Dufey, Duchy, Dukey, Billy, Farmer Phil, and the rest of the poormouthers quiffing through silk for generations.  thumbs down  thumbs down  trotter  TC
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2006, 08:41:28 AM »

Doesn't the internet killl alot of these types of shows - if you look at it that way. 20 years ago - a show like this or the replay show were very popular and people would tune in - as there wasn't as easy access to horse racing news as there is today, you basically had the form or shows like this - to keep up with the whole country of racing - now you can read a thousand web sites and get all the info you need.

For example on the Triple Crown trail, Back then the only way to find out if Devils Bag was injured and out of the Derby was to watch the replay show or wait and read it in the form  (and who really buys that just for the news - back then - so if you weren't going to the track the form was usually out and the local show was it)- nowadays we know every time Steviewonerboy or whomeber takes a bad step or coughs you read it online or get it emailed to you by 20 people.

I'm sure the Internet killed a lot of the shows, as well as the newspaper coverage. I know what you mean about the availability of information. Eleven years ago when we played our Derby List contests, the contest master always had to put out a pleading email on Monday to any Lister who lived in the Los Angeles area to get the winner and prices on Santa Anita races, usually from their local newspaper. Now all of that is a couple clicks away.

Look at the replay show issue from Hawthorne's standpoint. Of the very small audience that watched that thing, there was probably a much smaller contingent that actually used the information that it made available that wasn't already on the Internet (trip notes). So why not put the replays on the 'Net for much cheaper for the 25 guys around town who actually use them, and save the money for something else?

As far as Joe's show, that did have some unique things you can't find on the Internet, especially the (expensive) features, and it did have a local flavor which there's not a lot of in the national or local press, but a lot of the show duplicated similar features to be found elsewhere ... on the Internet. Just in TV form, rather than article form. I suppose in tight times, the tracks looked at it and decided it just was a luxury rather than a necessity. Maybe when we get slots and all problems of racing are magically solved, there will be mad money for shows like Joe's again. And maybe not - who in track management will care about racing then? They'll all be casino magnates.

At any rate, thanks much to Joe and the sponsors for making the show available to all of us for the years we had it. I enjoyed it thoroughly, and found most parts of it valuable.
 
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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2006, 10:12:52 PM »

joe my personal thanks to you and your crew you had working with you, chicago racing and racing in general needs all the help it can get if its going to survive!
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