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Author Topic: no mo' replay show?  (Read 2264 times)
CLOCKERTERRY
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« on: February 18, 2006, 07:50:45 PM »

Just re-heard this rumor today, that the nightly replay show is most likely a thing of the past. Cost cutting measure. That rumor's been around awhile, and here it is a week until the seasons starts, still going strong.

In other Hawthorne news of customer-oriented budget cuts (so that the duplicate sets of management can keep feeding happily at the hog trough?), the clubhouse side customer service facility (aka "the points shack") has been closed. Sign at the door on the way in says only the grandstand side one will be operational as of Feb 12. Didn't see that last week.

One would think that two tracks worth of business (?) people might have realized some time ago that adding [what was that number, 23?] long-time employees to a payroll, probably $2.5-$3 million dollars per year in total, might put a strain on profitablity in the long term. Between that poison pill from the NJC, and the IRB squeezing the harness dates, maybe the powers that be can finally force Hawthorne out of business.
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big wally
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2006, 08:40:26 PM »

The reply show news has been on the Haw website for at least a week.  I don't think the point shack thing has been open on the clubhouse side for a while. The remainder, we all Illinois Racing is in trouble.
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CLOCKERTERRY
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2006, 09:08:27 PM »

The reply show news has been on the Haw website for at least a week.  I don't think the point shack thing has been open on the clubhouse side for a while. The remainder, we all Illinois Racing is in trouble.

Really? What section was that news in? I saw the part about the new website not having streaming video, but didn't see about the nightly TV replay being dropped.

Also, I'm pretty sure that points shack was open, for at least part of the afternoon, last Saturday.
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big wally
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2006, 10:06:16 AM »


from the website (NEWS RELEASE)

"While the third floor is buzzing with the handicapping tournaments, the Handicapping & Business Center will reopen during live racing, beginning on February 24th so that new players and seasoned pros can continue to learn more about how to handicap and use new tools to their best ability so that they can win and play the horses even more. Thoroughbred Today, the daily racing program on CLTV will no longer have it’s television slot but with all of the information on the new website and the new classes planned for the Handicapping Center, customers can all still get the same information from the convenience of their home or the comfort of the track. "

 
ALL I KNOW, LAST MEET ANY REDEMPTION THAT I HAD TO DO WAS ON THE GRANDSTAND SIDE. Clubhouse was not open.
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CLOCKERTERRY
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2006, 10:29:51 AM »

Thanks wally. I read that press release because I distinctly remember the handicapping center buzzing (yesterday it was buzzing all right - I thought we were going to have a fight), but somehow that sentence about the replay show never registered. Rather misleading, "will no longer have it's television slot".

Now that Hawthorne is dumping its commitment to a nightly replay show, can Arlington be far behind? And if it does which it probably will, will it also provide free replays on the Internet?
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big wally
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2006, 12:45:42 PM »

My guess is Ap will not give away free replays. However, they we sell you a chicken sandwich for $8
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2006, 01:45:16 PM »

Wake up and smell the coffee!
The new management team of Tim Carey and Ed Duffy will oversee
a lot of slash and burn philosophy at the Stickney oval and this is simply
a part of it. Illinois racing is in big trouble.
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2006, 02:14:09 PM »

BIG MO, we are well aware of the perils of racing in the prairie state.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2006, 03:47:18 PM »

Is the redemption center on Clubhouse side just closed because it's the dark season?
Jeez, if they close it-everyone will have to walk all the way to the granstand side. They have more than enough people to handle both areas(5 people of the original 23 that came over from NJC).
It's just one more thing that they are doing to drive the patrons away.
What I don't understand is WHY?
All I ever hear from them is that they don't have any money since the merger. So the question I ask is WHY DID THE CAREYS MERGER WITH THEM IF THEY DIDN'T NEED THE MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE?
In the first two full years since the merger on track attandence, and on track betting on the live product both have gone down, and in a big way.
I also noticed that there hasn't been any advertising yet in the Chicago Sun times about horse racing and opening day on Friday. Maybe they don't have any money for that either....oh well...go figure.
Tim and Ed better get in gear quick, before they get in so deep that they can't climb out.
Even though I'm really pissed with Hawthorne.
I still love the place for what it was and can be again.
Tom senior and his late brother Bob are two of the nicest people I've ever met. Tom always tried to steal my favorite pen(and still does when I go there to watch my horses race..LOL) Bob always reminded me of the mad professor with his wild hair and crooked glasses.
It sure has changed there at Hawthorne..yup..it's really changed.... Huh
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CLOCKERTERRY
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2006, 03:58:31 PM »

Is the redemption center on Clubhouse side just closed because it's the dark season?
Jeez, if they close it-everyone will have to walk all the way to the granstand side.

I'm not sure. I just saw the sign yesterday. It was at the admissions booth. I will check it out again tomorrow, as I need to go over on the grandstand side for something else anyhow. Maybe I read it wrong?

The club side shack was closed yesterday when I walked in at 11:30, and was closed still (or again) when I walked out just before 5:00. And I would swear it was open, at least for awhile, last Saturday, as well as some other days during simulcast season. I know it was open the first winter season hcp contest day, because I asked the girl where the heck I was going. 
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2006, 07:10:53 PM »

The sign about the points shack being closed definitely reads "starting Feb. 12", and the grandstand side center is most definitely open even though all the simulblast action is on club side. You guys had me wondering myself! Whew.

Big cleanup in evidence all over the plant.
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big wally
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2006, 07:29:07 PM »

Not that is matters. The clubhouse point shack was not open every day in the spring (2005) meet, if it was maybe I was too early to reedeem points at that location. Fall meet I do not recall. In reality, why do they need both?
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2006, 07:37:54 PM »

Not that is matters. The clubhouse point shack was not open every day in the spring (2005) meet, if it was maybe I was too early to reedeem points at that location. Fall meet I do not recall. In reality, why do they need both?

They really don't need both during live season, IMHO. The club side shack was handy during simulcast season, though, and they could keep people out of the grandstand side.

Maybe it just closed for now since the grandstand side has to be open anyhow for the various racing offices.
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2006, 12:37:25 AM »

i wouldnt bank on arlington having free replays on the net. getta racereplays.com account, comes in very handy and they brought back the unlimited plan which is very reasonable from a price standpoint
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2006, 11:09:29 AM »

CBS Sportsline.com has free live video of races. The feed comes from You Bet, you do not need an account to get it. I heard Hawthorne will be available.
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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2006, 11:02:00 PM »

yeah cbs sportsline as well as other place on the net have had live streaming video of hawthorne for free in the past. hrtv and tvg should have coverage as well, unfortunately tvg tends to show alotta chicago races on tape becuz they dare not miss a  post parade from NY
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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2006, 08:03:02 AM »

Santa Anita tried to have their replay show only on HRTV at the beginning of this meet.  HRTV is only on DISH and cable outlets in Pennsylvania.   Fans went crazy and kept complaining, Santa Anita listened and put it back on local tv along with HRTV.  Then again Santa Anita is having a great meet in attendance and handle.  They are giving out hundreds of thousands of free admission tickets and it seems to be working.  With Arlington close to the casino, I hope they realize it is time to offer free admission.   More people go and bet more when they get in for free.  It is a no brainer.  Arlington should take lessons from Santa Anita.

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