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Kenneth J. Chadwick
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« on: January 26, 2009, 07:47:05 PM »

Dear Group:

Now that The Meadowlands have been racing for approximately two (2) months, I am going to ask some thought provoking questions.

Background:
I have been handicapping and playing the Meadowlands for approximately two (2) weeks.
Almost all 10 horse fields.  trophy
Very few invaders trotter win off the 1st time on the track.
I feel there is a group of "sharpies" who play the Meadowlands consistently.  It seems when I feel I have a live horse, the horse gets hammered at the mutual windows.  poor baby

How many races do you play a night?

Do you have a preference of any gimmick bet?

Do you handicap every night?

Do you play any other tracks besides The Meadowlands simultaneously?

Are you planning to go to to the handicap contest on April 25, 2009?

I will give you my answers after Wednesday/Thursday night.

Thanks ahead of time for your insight and input. bowing


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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2009, 07:45:52 AM »

Dear Group:

Now that The Meadowlands have been racing for approximately two (2) months, I am going to ask some thought provoking questions.

Background:
I have been handicapping and playing the Meadowlands for approximately two (2) weeks.
Almost all 10 horse fields.  trophy
Very few invaders trotter win off the 1st time on the track.
I feel there is a group of "sharpies" who play the Meadowlands consistently.  It seems when I feel I have a live horse, the horse gets hammered at the mutual windows.  poor baby

How many races do you play a night?

Do you have a preference of any gimmick bet?

Do you handicap every night?

Do you play any other tracks besides The Meadowlands simultaneously?

Are you planning to go to to the handicap contest on April 25, 2009?

I will give you my answers after Wednesday/Thursday night.

Thanks ahead of time for your insight and input. bowing


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Good post Kenneth.

I usually play bwtween 3-5 races a night, not counting some pick 3 and/or the pick 4.

I think the exacta has excellent value at the BigM.

I usually just play on weekends.

Other tracks I play are Chicago although, less and less.

I do like some first time starter at the Meadowlands. If a horse has faster speed ratings at another track and was not pulled along to that rating, they are often worth a play at decent odds.
Frankyluvsmeatballs was a good example a couple of weeks ago. He came from Cal Expo. Most of the other shippers, for lack of a better term that can win there at a price come from Freehold or Yonkers. But not very often.
Some may argue with me but I usually need to see a couple of starts from Canadian horses. Their speed ratings don't match the BigM for similar classes. They often look better than they actually are and need a couple starts in NJ to find their level.

Good luck!

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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2009, 01:25:33 PM »

Dear Group:

Now that The Meadowlands have been racing for approximately two (2) months, I am going to ask some thought provoking questions.

Background:
I have been handicapping and playing the Meadowlands for approximately two (2) weeks.
Almost all 10 horse fields.  trophy
Very few invaders trotter win off the 1st time on the track.
I feel there is a group of "sharpies" who play the Meadowlands consistently.  It seems when I feel I have a live horse, the horse gets hammered at the mutual windows.  poor baby

How many races do you play a night?

Do you have a preference of any gimmick bet?

Do you handicap every night?

Do you play any other tracks besides The Meadowlands simultaneously?

Are you planning to go to to the handicap contest on April 25, 2009?

I will give you my answers after Wednesday/Thursday night.

Thanks ahead of time for your insight and input. bowing


Kenneth 

It will depend on the card on how many races I play.I do play more races on the weekend cards.

The P4 is the only gimmick I play regularly.

No other tracks but the MEDS at night.

I have noticed this yr more so than other yrs  I need to see a start or 2 on horses coming from other tracks.
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2009, 02:45:24 PM »

Meadowlands is one of the hardest tracks to handicap in my opinion.
Many live horses in each race that drive like cadillacs.
Good luck !!!!!!!!!1
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2009, 03:21:21 PM »

I have a very difficult time handicapping big tracks, especially M1 & WDB.  At M1, if the track is anti-speed & you land on top instead of the 2 or 3 hole, you could be much the best & tear up your tickets.  And sometimes you can't figure that out until halfway through the card or the bias changes.

The only real success I've had is watching the board on exactas or doubles & betting the "value" horse to win.  Your bet will almost always be with the "smart" money on a long shot that's trying very hard or the overlay who may or may not have money for a reason.  Trainer changes is not a bad angle & sometimes you can find horses who were blocked or used against a bias the previous week that the rest of the world somehow missed.  Recording the show & watching it a few times can be beneficial.

Of course, I like to bet speed horses which is why I prefer betting on 1/2 mile tracks.  And since I don't bet chalks I have to stay very disciplined to win.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2009, 01:44:00 AM »

I play Big M on Fri./Sat. nites. unless one of my families horses are racing during the week then I'll handicap that race. Dover Downs shippers are usually a toss as well as a Monticello shippers.I usually box exactas and triples.I'll key on a betting value(IMO)and wheel DD's if it applies.I play all races ,just vary the amounts bet. I do follow horses that I formally owned if their still around and bet accordingly.I use the computer exclusively for watching the races and betting.
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2009, 08:45:26 AM »

it depends on the night how many races I play. Like tonight. I will probably only play a double, and the pick 4. On the weekends, I will play more races, as the fields are more wide open and you can find good value

The one bet I will play every night, when I am playing , is the pick 4. best bet there is in harness

When Playing, the Big M is the only thing I focus on and play ( best pools there is in harness racing)

As for horses shipping in, the only ones that seem to win right away are horses from, Casie, Rucker and Erv. The others seem to need a start or 2 ( Once Montini gets going, he will Join this group)
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2009, 08:19:20 AM »

Dear Group:
Now that The Meadowlands have been racing for approximately two (2) months, I am going to ask some thought provoking questions.

Good news and bad news.

You can beat the Meadowlands but it takes a great deal of discipline.

Let's review Race 8 on Saturday (Jan 31, 2009)
Glass Pack line on Jan 17 was strong.
New week from the 10 hole parked out and finished 8.
This week the odds are 17:1.
Here are the result below.

 Horse Driver Win Place Show
7  Glass Pack  D Dube 38.60 13.80 7.60
4  Exterminator  R Pierce  4.40 3.00
8  All Hall  T Tetrick   3.20

I have determined these opportunities show up about three to six times a week.
Trust me they are there.

What's the strategy.

I have to handicap every race every day.
It takes me about an hour to handicap the card.
Therefore I have invested 5 hours a week.
How much do I want to make an hour.
Let's say I want to make $ 100.00 an hour or $ 500.00 a week.
If I have a success ratio of 1 out to 3.
My odds are better than 8:1.
My investment per race is $ 50.00.
To summaize

6 races a week
Investment $300.00 ( 6 races * $ 50.00)
If I have 2 winners at 8:1 or better at $ 50.00 bet ='s $800.00
Less investment 6 races at $ 50.00 that 's                  300.00

Net profit per week $ 500.00.
Balance of Meadowlands meet is 26 weeks
Net profit is $ 13,000 ($ 500 * 26).
Does it work?
I will confirm the strategy at the end of the meet.

Your impute is always welcome.
I do like the Meadowlands.
The pools make it work.
Unfortunately if you are playing Prairie Meadows, this strategy will not work.


Happy Sunday
Must go to work today.

Kenneth 
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 12:18:35 PM »

Dear Group:

Now that The Meadowlands have been racing for approximately two (2) months, I am going to ask some thought provoking questions.

Background:
I have been handicapping and playing the Meadowlands for approximately two (2) weeks.
Almost all 10 horse fields.  trophy
Very few invaders trotter win off the 1st time on the track.
I feel there is a group of "sharpies" who play the Meadowlands consistently.  It seems when I feel I have a live horse, the horse gets hammered at the mutual windows.  poor baby

How many races do you play a night?

Do you have a preference of any gimmick bet?

Do you handicap every night?

Do you play any other tracks besides The Meadowlands simultaneously?

Are you planning to go to to the handicap contest on April 25, 2009?

I will give you my answers after Wednesday/Thursday night.

Thanks ahead of time for your insight and input. bowing


Kenneth

Hey ken,
Back on-line after the ice storm here in Central KY.
Interesting points you raise.
1) Rarely play more than two races on any given card and I DO NOT wager on every race card.
2) As stated earlier by another poster, the exactas at the M1 present better than average value in most instances.
I will by a pick 4 ticket when the one ( or two ) horse I have selected for my nightly wager is in a race encompassed within that format.
3) Stated earlier that I don't bet every card nor do I handicap every card. I will follow certain horses and handicap their chances versus the field they happen to be facing. Did well couple seasons ago with a horse named Arts Regards.
4) I will very occasionally, wager on other tracks if it is a horse I know VERY WELL, is owned by a friend, is trained by a friend.
Otherwise NO!
I missed Glasspack because of the little weather incident we had down here but had given him a great chance at a decent price---so it went!!
5) April? Handicapping contest?
Tough time of year for the business I'm now in. Should have sat back, stayed retired, and forgot about landscapping/cutting someone else's yard.
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