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Dan Villeky
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« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2008, 09:16:27 PM »

Maybe there are no "real" sites for slot pullers!

Just don't get why he would even bother being here.

He's more than likely 15 years old and knows more than you or I will ever know about anything and everything imaginable.
OR he's a troll from the TB side of this forum who can't tell you the difference between a jog cart and a race bike. There are several of those here as well.
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« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2008, 09:52:47 PM »

He's more than likely 15 years old and knows more than you or I will ever know about anything and everything imaginable.
OR he's a troll from the TB side of this forum who can't tell you the difference between a jog cart and a race bike. There are several of those here as well.

JOG CART WAS USED FOR FRANK O'MARA RIGHT ?


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« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2008, 11:26:18 PM »

Let's talk about the 40,000 jobs.  Or are they not "real" enough for you?
40,000? you must be including the grocery store clerk who puts the baking soda on store shelves. As for importance, which in the overall scheme of things is more important to society, higher horse purses or higher education? I am so glad that this is the way you treat your customers, You know, one of the people who bet on what you  do for a living. I see where you place them in your overall list.
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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2008, 01:26:39 AM »

40,000? you must be including the grocery store clerk who puts the baking soda on store shelves. As for importance, which in the overall scheme of things is more important to society, higher horse purses or higher education? I am so glad that this is the way you treat your customers, You know, one of the people who bet on what you  do for a living. I see where you place them in your overall list.
As you put down Horse Racing on a Horse Racing Forum why DON'T YOU READ the BILL! It was Created to help the Horse Racing Industry in Illinois NOT for another purpose! If the lawmakers in Springfield WANT more money to go to Education than complain to them about it!
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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2008, 06:18:05 AM »

I am so glad to see in horsemens eyes and ways of thinking, its a ok for government to steal money from a successful business to prop up another. I seriously doubt the casinos volunteered to give their profits to the horse race industry, nor do I see them wanting to build a race track, I do see horse racing trying to horn in on the casinos form of gambling in an effort to replace the customers gambling dollars that tracks and horse racers have chased away. And one does wonder, with Illinois govt. now famous for its pay to play status, how much were legislators greased by race track owners to concoct such an arrangement to steal the casinos profits. This whole redistribution of wealth should be stopped pending an investigation to see who greased who's pockets. The whole bill is unconstitutional and lets hope that the US Supreme Court sees it that way when they hear the case. So sorry that you take it in such a way that you have to attack me personally, but I guess thats the way horse people have treated their customers since day one, your us vs. them mentality is what has gotten you in your mess in the first place. Have a nice day!
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« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2008, 07:06:27 AM »


        Bingo ,

        You want an investigation ?

      I guarantee the Casino owners wouldn't want an investigation on what politicians they paid off to get the boats here in the first place !!

      Please you cannot be that naive to think they got here on a free ride .  The casino's are no different from a 3 card monte game and are partly responsible for keeping people broke !!  There are way more people getting broke and losing their ass on the boats than the racetrack . Thats a fact !   I know suckers who have had their life destroyed from their losses at the robbing casino's that have gone bankrupt .  Sure you get free food !!  I guess its worth it for them to give a guy a free meal and a drink since the guy is paying for it with his household cash .  The boats should all sink !!!!!!!

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« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2008, 07:10:32 AM »

The whole bill is unconstitutional

7 Illinois Supreme Court Justices disagree with you, yet you know it's unconstitutional doh
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« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2008, 07:21:58 AM »

        Bingo ,

        You want an investigation ?

      I guarantee the Casino owners wouldn't want an investigation on what politicians they paid off to get the boats here in the first place !!

      Please you cannot be that naive to think they got here on a free ride .  The casino's are no different from a 3 card monte game and are partly responsible for keeping people broke !!  There are way more people getting broke and losing their ass on the boats than the racetrack . Thats a fact !   I know suckers who have had their life destroyed from their losses at the robbing casino's that have gone bankrupt .  Sure you get free food !!  I guess its worth it for them to give a guy a free meal and a drink since the guy is paying for it with his household cash .  The boats should all sink !!!!!!!

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Phil with all due respect, I never have said that the casino people were above reproach, just successful at what they are doing as compared to the race tracks. As for people spending the household cash, I bet that is a problem at both gambling venues, not just unique to casino style gaming. As for the Illinois Supremem court, There is no way in that state are they honest and above reproach either. You can bet their campaign coffers have been lined with illicit monies too, in other words their votes have been bought and paid for. Lets see what the supreme court of the US thinks about the matter. No where did I say that race tracks should not be allowed to have casino style gaming, they just shouldnt be able to raid the casino profits to fund the tracks. It is a very slippery slope when you allow this to happen. I must go plow some snow or I wont be able to make it to school to teach the kids.
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« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2008, 07:58:41 AM »

HOW THE HELL DO WE GET SO MANY SCHOOL TEACHERS ON BTW  Huh

FILLYNATION NOW BINGO , IS THERE ANYONE ELSE?
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO USE SPELL CHECK NOW  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2008, 10:42:50 AM »

Phil with all due respect, I never have said that the casino people were above reproach, just successful at what they are doing as compared to the race tracks.

If people were allowed to play slots and other casino games from home, from casinos that were looser than the home team, and got rebates doing it, our casinos might not be quite so successful either.

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No where did I say that race tracks should not be allowed to have casino style gaming, they just shouldnt be able to raid the casino profits to fund the tracks.

If the casinos don't like paying the 3%, they should stop paying off Madigan to keep slots out of the tracks every time that comes up.
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« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2008, 10:52:08 AM »

If people were allowed to play slots and other casino games from home, from casinos that were looser than the home team, and got rebates doing it, our casinos might not be quite so successful either.

If the casinos don't like paying the 3%, they should stop paying off Madigan to keep slots out of the tracks every time that comes up.


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« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2008, 02:05:36 PM »

If people were allowed to play slots and other casino games from home, from casinos that were looser than the home team, and got rebates doing it, our casinos might not be quite so successful either.

If the casinos don't like paying the 3%, they should stop paying off Madigan to keep slots out of the tracks every time that comes up.

Why are you accusing Madigan of taking payoffs.  sneaky  Don't say things like that unless you have proof tapes or video.  screwy
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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2008, 04:03:43 PM »

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Phil with all due respect, I never have said that the casino people were above reproach, just successful at what they are doing as compared to the race tracks. As for people spending the household cash, I bet that is a problem at both gambling venues, not just unique to casino style gaming. As for the Illinois Supremem court, There is no way in that state are they honest and above reproach either. You can bet their campaign coffers have been lined with illicit monies too, in other words their votes have been bought and paid for. Lets see what the supreme court of the US thinks about the matter. No where did I say that race tracks should not be allowed to have casino style gaming, they just shouldnt be able to raid the casino profits to fund the tracks. It is a very slippery slope when you allow this to happen. I must go plow some snow or I wont be able to make it to school to teach the kids.
With all the horse manure in this post, there must be a pony in there somewhere. The State Supreme court bought off by the horsemen-right! And compared to the casinos, we have enough money to even come close? YGBSM Go shovel the snow along with the horse manure that you shovel at us.  Then collect your state sponsored teacher retirement that our tax money will pay for.  And have a nice day.  Pork
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« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2008, 07:00:39 PM »

bingo
    Its real simple  if you cant understand this  i dont know what to tell you.    put in a full casino at the track and they can keep there 3% hell give us a casino and we will be glad to give 3% to the schools .  It is kinda like telling kmart they can only sale  socks  and wal mart  can sell socks and shoes . The tiny 3% of the billions the boats are making is nothing more than a little hush money so they dont have to give us slots  or a full casino .  want money for schools  go after the boats  and there billions not the struggling horseman /women
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« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2008, 08:45:03 AM »

Anyone know if this cancels recapture
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« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2008, 11:30:48 AM »

does not .... but   the 3% is to be split 60% horseman  and 40%  track owners  harness side has  set a deal with the tracks  at 50 / 50 and the tracks pay recapture . So in a way yes it is eliminated  but not really
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« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2008, 11:48:18 AM »

bingo
    Its real simple  if you cant understand this  i dont know what to tell you.    put in a full casino at the track and they can keep there 3% hell give us a casino and we will be glad to give 3% to the schools .  It is kinda like telling kmart they can only sale  socks  and wal mart  can sell socks and shoes . The tiny 3% of the billions the boats are making is nothing more than a little hush money so they dont have to give us slots  or a full casino .  want money for schools  go after the boats  and there billions not the struggling horseman /women

Eggie, please tell me WHY the tracks DESERVE a casino? They did NOTHING when the casinos tried to get into Illinois. IN FACT they ran around(as did the horsemen) with their silly "casiNO" buttons on. If they wanted to be partners on casino-type gambling, then fine, work out a deal with them and split the profits.But they didn't and tried to stop the casinos from opening here.Tell me which casino in Illinois has horse racing available? It seems to me that the tracks tried stopping the casinos and then when they couldn't, they want part of THEIR profit.Doesn't seem right. Or they want CASINO-TYPE gambling on their property.Why should they get it? They have harness racing. The tracks AND the horsemen need to do a better job of promoting their OWN business instead of trying to horn in on someone elses. Why give the track owners TONS of profits for NOTHING?And just WHY do the horsemen think they are going to get a fair shake on this from the track owners? They NEVER have before..... And if the tracks do get the slots, kiss harness racing goodby. They would have NO incentive to keep racing. The track owners here are the worst in the country. And especially at screwing the horsemen. The track owners will become casino owners. THAT'S what they want. GUARANTEED millions. Just sit back and do nothing. Kind of like how they have let the horse racing business go downhill. The horse people talk of how many jobs will be lost because of the loss of harness racing. Well that's how many are going to be gone when the track owners go to just a straight casino.Horsemen, I have a suggestion if you want to stay in Chicago, LEARN HOW TO DEAL the cards.
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« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2008, 10:36:22 PM »

Just curious .......... who is going to have the budget for Illinois worked out in time?

If Blago is fighting this impeachment when will he have time for this?

supernaut,

Horse racing was here first and casinos belong in Vegas only JMO.
Casinos will not allow the tracks to have slots so why shouldn't the horsemen get something? 
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« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2008, 11:54:02 PM »

Just curious .......... who is going to have the budget for Illinois worked out in time?

If Blago is fighting this impeachment when will he have time for this?

supernaut,

Horse racing was here first and casinos belong in Vegas only JMO.
Casinos will not allow the tracks to have slots so why shouldn't the horsemen get something? 

Horse racing was here first and PASSED on the chance to be partners on casinos.
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« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2008, 01:35:57 PM »

How much annual money does the 3% represent?
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« Reply #45 on: December 30, 2008, 04:57:26 PM »

Horse racing was here first and PASSED on the chance to be partners on casinos.

I don't think "horse racing" ever had a chance at the original casinos in Illinois. The law specified they had to go in depressed old river towns, and the licenses all went to politically connected insiders. All racing could do was fight.
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