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« on: October 11, 2008, 07:58:18 PM »

OK guys I just took my first trip to Hawthorne today! I've got to share the good news first. I only brought $20 to bet with today, and I put it all on Eddie and The Strait to win in race 7. I of course wanted him to win, but didn't really have my hopes up too much. Like everyone else, I expected it to be Adriano.  I was pleasantly surprised when he won and made me $380 dollars richer!!  trophy I'm taking myself out tonight to celebrate, with an expensive sushi dinner and lots of martinis.

Even though I had a good day of winning at the track. I'm not too sure about Hawthorne. I really liked how close you can get to the horses along the track. I got some great pictures! But the inside of the joint, I wasn't to impressed. I'm not going alone again. I kept getting hit on my either really dirty men or really OLD dirty men. I purposely did not look girly today too, knowing the neighborhood I was coming to today. Gray t-shirt and jeans AND I still got a "nice ass" from AND some guy had the nerve to tell me he liked to take 2 legged fillies for a ride followed with a wink. If I had a beer in my hand, he would of been wearing it!! And don't even get me started on the women's bathroom! I've been in cleaner truck stop bathrooms.

I love the races, I'm sure I will make another visit to Hawthorne. But I will avoid the inside area, or one of YOU is going to have to be my escort at the track.
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2008, 08:24:32 PM »

It might almost be worth going to Hawthorne to escort you, CT.

Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2008, 08:50:47 PM »

damn that sucks chrissy, sorry ya hada endure it! nuttin wrong with hollain at some females but obviously whatya mentioned was crossin the line, ya shoulda slapped the taste outta their mouth, and/or kicked em in the junk! next time atleast make sure youre with 1 other person or a group, congrats tho on the nice score@ the windows!
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2008, 10:43:21 PM »

Chrissy... good job on your win!

Take someone with you next time. No one should have to put up with that.

Although, when I was young, I do remember I let it go over my head.  But I was never alone.  Sometimes it's too creepy.

I admire you for not worrying about going alone.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2008, 11:04:40 PM »

Chrissy
I would not stay on the 1st floor. The third floor is very nice and not only can you sit in the now defunct handicapping center but you can go outside for the best view of the track. I favor the Italian Bistro on the 2nd floor, but the 3rd floor  specials are really good too. Oh darn, the ladies that cook on both floors are good, lets put it that way.
Glad for your win, sorry some guys over there were jerks.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2008, 11:32:39 PM »

Yes, Chrissy, just go upstairs it's like the Bellagio, I swear!

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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2008, 11:42:50 PM »


Chrissy sorry to hear of your bad experience with the clientele.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2008, 11:45:11 PM »

Yes, Chrissy, just go upstairs it's like the Bellagio, I swear!

 Roll Eyes

In any case, it's about the same as the simulcast areas on the 2nd floor at AP (but without so many fake plants), with the added bonus of being able to see real races out the window, or easily step right out to the outdoor seats and not have some officious redcoat tell you you can't sit in those empty seats.
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2008, 01:19:33 AM »

I favor the Italian Bistro on the 2nd floor, but the 3rd floor  specials are really good too. Oh darn, the ladies that cook on both floors are good, lets put it that way.
Glad for your win, sorry some guys over there were jerks.

I second the Italian Bistro, especially the panini.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2008, 09:42:30 AM »

Turf club and Gold Cup room are nice options too
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2008, 04:22:58 PM »

I second the Italian Bistro, especially the panini.


Or the Italian Sub. An all day poundage meal for $5.50. Much more poundage and variety than the nearly $10 AP carved sammiches.
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2008, 07:21:11 PM »

Chrissy;

PM me sometime and you can go to Hawthorne with Mrs Powell and the General. We could pass you off as our daughter.

Seriously, one is surprised that the biggest defender of Hawthorne, one Mr HorseVoice, has been unusually silent during this time. Hopefully he is too busy working for the election of Mr Obama to have time to respond, and that he is just not ignoring the thread.

Clocker; There is no need to attack the Guest Service staff at AP for doing what they are told to do. Your Lady Friend, who I met at AP this year, seemed to like the place and from what I could tell, thought rather highly of our "Obnoxious" crew. Gee Clocker, Can I sit in your seat at the "cell" next year when you're not there?

Based on the Live handle so far at Hawthorne, those really old men (or really dirty old men) must also be either broke, or protecting their portfolio.
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2008, 07:59:36 PM »

Clocker; There is no need to attack the Guest Service staff at AP for doing what they are told to do.

Not an attack on the staff. A comment on AP's policy.

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Your Lady Friend, who I met at AP this year, seemed to like the place and from what I could tell, thought rather highly of our "Obnoxious" crew.

So what?

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Gee Clocker, Can I sit in your seat at the "cell" next year when you're not there?

Feel free to try, but I'm sure you will find one of my legitimate season ticket partners or their assignees actually sitting there the games I'm not, as opposed to an empty unused seat, which is the usual case at AP except for Million weekend. If you want to give it a shot, try the weekday afternoon games. I think we've left those unused a couple times the past few years. Be sure you get a lower bowl ticket to get down there to begin with, though! Bon voyage!
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2008, 10:21:56 PM »

Not an attack on the staff. A comment on AP's policy.

So what?

Feel free to try, but I'm sure you will find one of my legitimate season ticket partners or their assignees actually sitting there the games I'm not, as opposed to an empty unused seat, which is the usual case at AP except for Million weekend. If you want to give it a shot, try the weekday afternoon games. I think we've left those unused a couple times the past few years. Be sure you get a lower bowl ticket to get down there to begin with, though! Bon voyage!
Bulls---! A comment on AP's policy would read something like "Arlington has an empty track most weekdays, yet maintains a strict policy about making sure people have tickets for their seats"---not making a comment about "obnoxious redcoats".--

I'll try next year-- Give me the section, row, etc. I'm not smart enough to figure out what seats you have. 
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2008, 11:10:50 PM »

I'll try next year-- Give me the section, row, etc. I'm not smart enough to figure out what seats you have. 

Section 124. Feel free to come on down. You never know.
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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2008, 09:15:36 AM »

Chrissy, if you want to continue your tour of degenerate parimutual experiences, lets go up to the Kenosha dogtrack together sometime, preferably the simulcast pavilion late night to bet on Phoenix greyhounds and Los Al. Now THAT's a good-looking crowd.

Sorry to hear about your hecklers, look at it this way, would you have preferred the creeps commenting on your ass while winning $380, or the other way around? I think you'd rather have the money and a story to tell than no money and no story.

Also keep in mind you're probably one of 6 female racing fans between the ages of 21-30 in Chicago, the HAW residents aren't used to it. You're singlehandly breaking the gender barrier!
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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2008, 11:46:21 AM »

Seriously, one is surprised that the biggest defender of Hawthorne, one Mr HorseVoice, has been unusually silent during this time.

Sorry, just got back from LV and catching up.

The behavior Chrissy describes from grandstand patrons is unacceptable. She could have had these guys tossed out if she wanted to, but that's not the point -- she shouldn't have to put up with that shit. That said, there is no "defending Hawthorne" here, because Hawthorne can't resolve a problem that they don't know about.

And if you think no one has ever said "nice ass" to a woman at AP, you're out of your mind. People with bad manners are everywhere.

Based on the Live handle so far at Hawthorne, those really old men (or really dirty old men) must also be either broke, or protecting their portfolio.

Most of the "really dirty old men" around me have phone accounts. I'm one of the few relics still betting through Hawthorne...but I probably need to switch, too -- I'm leaving too much money on the table with the 2 - 4% Hawthorne pays. (I don't know how you Twin Spires folks betting on-track put up with the ass-raping you are taking on rebates, at less than half of the skimpy rebate Hawthorne pays -- does the internet version of Twin Spires pay better, maybe?)
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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2008, 02:07:46 PM »

Yes, Chrissy, just go upstairs it's like the Bellagio, I swear!

Like the Bellagio, huh? I'll make it a point to visit the third floor but then I would end up running up and down all day. I have to look at the horses in the post parade. I base a lot of my wagers on the behavior of a horse and jockey in the post parade. At AP I usually just hang out in the paddock area, place my bets down there, and watch the race on the big screen. I enjoyed the convenience at Hawthorne that I could watch post parade up close on the rail, literally turn around walk 50ft to place my wager, then turn around to watch the race right there on the track.

THANKS to those of you emailed me and invited me to join you on my next visit to Hawthorne. I'm definitely going to take up somebody's invite!
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2008, 02:13:25 PM »

Turf club and Gold Cup room are nice options too

HaHa. I got invited by a group a guys while I was there to join them at their buddies bachelor party. They told me to meet them in the Turf Club...I stayed far away! 
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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2008, 05:42:57 PM »

Like the Bellagio, huh? I'll make it a point to visit the third floor but then I would end up running up and down all day. I have to look at the horses in the post parade. I base a lot of my wagers on the behavior of a horse and jockey in the post parade. At AP I usually just hang out in the paddock area, place my bets down there, and watch the race on the big screen. I enjoyed the convenience at Hawthorne that I could watch post parade up close on the rail, literally turn around walk 50ft to place my wager, then turn around to watch the race right there on the track.

THANKS to those of you emailed me and invited me to join you on my next visit to Hawthorne. I'm definitely going to take up somebody's invite!

It's good exercise running up and down the escalators. You can watch the horses in the paddock and then run up the escalators to the third floor in time to see the post parade. The post parade is better from up there anyway. Get yourself some good binoculars.
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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2008, 07:19:47 PM »


THANKS to those of you emailed me and invited me to join you on my next visit to Hawthorne. I'm definitely going to take up somebody's invite!

Chrissy,
If you want go to my website at:
http://www.rogersranchstable.com/contact.htm
and give me a call. I'll escort you there and we'll have a blast. Plus, you won't be harrassed with me as you know already.
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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2008, 10:48:11 PM »



Most of the "really dirty old men" around me have phone accounts. I'm one of the few relics still betting through Hawthorne...but I probably need to switch, too -- I'm leaving too much money on the table with the 2 - 4% Hawthorne pays. (I don't know how you Twin Spires folks betting on-track put up with the ass-raping you are taking on rebates, at less than half of the skimpy rebate Hawthorne pays -- does the internet version of Twin Spires pay better, maybe?)

I always get  full track payoffs on the internet whether it be twinspires, or the others.

Don't have to deal with "grouchy" mutual clerks with internet betting. Angry
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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2008, 10:53:40 PM »

Chrissy, most people spend their time inside at Hawthorne.  The only time they go outside is back and forth to their car.  It sort of is a big old OTB.
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« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2008, 11:24:26 PM »

Chrissy, most people spend their time inside at Hawthorne.  The only time they go outside is back and forth to their car.  It sort of is a big old OTB.

You're very wrong Dan. Many people - in fact a good percentage of them go outside during the race day and especially before each race.
The differance between Hawthorne and Arlington is that at Arlington - you can ONLY SEE THE RACES OUTSIDE NO MATTER HOW BAD THE WEATHER IS AT ARLINGTON.
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« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2008, 11:56:36 PM »

Chrissy, most people spend their time inside at Hawthorne.  The only time they go outside is back and forth to their car.  It sort of is a big old OTB.

This from the expert who hasn't set foot in the place since 1998.
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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2008, 12:38:54 PM »

In my experience, almost everybody betting live is outside during the race. Because you can't see anything through those windows.
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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2008, 12:42:56 PM »

In my experience, almost everybody betting live is outside during the race. Because you can't see anything through those windows.

...and you were last there, when, in 199_? (fill in the blank)

Come back to Hawthorne, Moon -- they cleaned the windows just for you!
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« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2008, 01:46:44 PM »

...and you were last there, when, in 199_? (fill in the blank)

Come back to Hawthorne, Moon -- they cleaned the windows just for you!

It's more glare than cleaning. Although, the windows were always streaked.
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« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2008, 02:42:43 PM »

This from the expert who hasn't set foot in the place since 1998.

This is true.  I was there in the summer of that year and do not remember very many people being outside.  The apron between the track and the building was not very big and there were two or three rows of seats out there that were mostly empty.  The most people that were out there were those who had sponsored some race and then they would run back inside.  The best place to watch the races was from the clubhouse side where they had an indoor concert stage and a level above that.  The room upstairs where they have the brunch and bar was nice too.

I did like the tunnel under the track that took you to a saddling area in the infield that is not used.  I guess horses do not like tunnels.

Seeing the horses saddled in the saddling basement room was not real great as there was not much room for any audience, even owners.

After that, I got the idea that people did not go see the horses or go outside much.  Most of the trainers hung around on the first floor, but so did the track characters.  Although, I must say that I was never harrassed sexually.

Oh, one time I did sit in a nice open air box at the level that had the brunch and bar.

Maybe everything has changed since that time.

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« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2008, 05:13:46 PM »

This is true.  I was there in the summer of that year and do not remember very many people being outside.  The apron between the track and the building was not very big and there were two or three rows of seats out there that were mostly empty.  The most people that were out there were those who had sponsored some race and then they would run back inside.  The best place to watch the races was from the clubhouse side where they had an indoor concert stage and a level above that.  The room upstairs where they have the brunch and bar was nice too.

I did like the tunnel under the track that took you to a saddling area in the infield that is not used.  I guess horses do not like tunnels.

Seeing the horses saddled in the saddling basement room was not real great as there was not much room for any audience, even owners.

After that, I got the idea that people did not go see the horses or go outside much.  Most of the trainers hung around on the first floor, but so did the track characters.  Although, I must say that I was never harrassed sexually.

Oh, one time I did sit in a nice open air box at the level that had the brunch and bar.

Maybe everything has changed since that time.



They use the tunnel and the infield as a paddock for Harness racing, IIRC.

If horses were afraid of tunnels, how do they possibly get them down into the underground thoroughbred paddock?


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« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2008, 10:22:35 PM »

They use the tunnel and the infield as a paddock for Harness racing, IIRC.

No they don't.  Harness paddock is on the backstretch.
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« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2008, 11:11:59 PM »

This is true.  I was there in the summer of that year and do not remember very many people being outside.

How many people are outside depends on the weather. If it's nice you get a nice outside crowd. If it's crappy, which it usually is for both Hawthorne meets, most people will stay inside and watch through the windows or on TV. Just like Arlington! Except more windows.
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« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2008, 11:49:41 AM »

Of course, a lot of people on the apron at AP rely on the Jumbotron to view what is happening for most of the race, esp. since the tote board and trees block the backstretch view of the race from the apron level.  HAW doesn't have a jumbotron.  But windows run the entire length of the building, with a view on floors 1, 2, & 3, with the 3rd floor being outdoors.  No TV's in the 2nd floor grandstand seats or the 3rd floor outdoor seats (and indoor windows), but there is a good view of the entire track from those levels. 
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« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2008, 12:30:32 PM »

The Arlington apron also has a little more elevation to it, which helps the outdoor viewing to some extent.
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