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« on: July 15, 2008, 02:49:38 PM »

how long until gas prices drop?   i say never....if it was the other way around and crude was up 7 bucks they would of already raised the prices
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2008, 07:39:59 PM »

Couldn't resist the subject line Wink

from the Narch 7, 1929 Trotter and Pacer mag:

A Genuine Sale Ring Bargain

LEXINGTON, Ky., March 2.

ONE of the best sale ring bargains that has been brought to notice in some time past is that of the great broodmare Daisydale D. 2:151/4. Entered in an auction here last fall and apparently showing barrenness, she was passed. Later she appeared in a sale of horses and mules at the Gentry Thompson Co., and was purchased by Asa H. Jewell of Pleasant View Farm for a very modest sum, to be exact, $7.

She was bought with the purpose of filling out a load of business horses and mules to go south. He paid no attention to the page of catalog that was given him after her purchase until later, and saw that it was  Daisydale.

Later investigation showed that she was in foal, so naturally she did not go south, but is now at Pleasant View Farm.
Daisydale D. is the dam of five, including that wonderfully fast pacer Abbedale 2:011/4, and his sister Mag Abbe 2:081/2 She was stinted to Bogalusa 2:041/4 last spring, so the proposed foal will be a brother or sister to Queen Marie (2) 2:18, that trotted a half in 1:03 here last May; Daleusa (2) 2:201/2, (3) 2:161/4, and Daisy L., now two, that was paid up on in the Hambletonian Stake for 1930.
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 Anybody know what the foal did Wink
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 09:54:33 AM »

how long until gas prices drop?   i say never....if it was the other way around and crude was up 7 bucks they would of already raised the prices


By $0.30 per gallon!!  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Down another $5.00 / barrel this morning.
What's a good communist like the looney mooney going to do should this contonue ??
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 10:12:27 AM »


By $0.30 per gallon!!  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Down another $5.00 / barrel this morning.
What's a good communist like the looney mooney going to do should this contonue ??

Why didn't Dubya take off that executive moratorium when he took office? The whole price run up would never have happened. He ripped every one of us off at the pumps, and made us suffer needlessly.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 10:27:46 AM »

Oil companies get the best of both worlds by using variable accounting methods as required...When the oil goes up gas prices go up immediately because they say they have to replace their reserves at the higher price but when oil goes down they say they have to use their reserves first (bought at the higher prices) before they can decrease prices...I'm sure theres a way in trading commodities to make money if you know something is going down in price and anyone with any kind of pulse knew the oil would drop once Bush made that announcement...I guess thats why the rich get richer and the poor are busy trying to cash a daily double somewhere...I told a friend that I thought gas prices would go down signifigantly instead of up because how could Chrysler guarantee gas at $3 if it was going to $5....As soon as they announced that incentive I figured somebody had to know something
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 03:02:36 PM »

I would like to thank George W. Bush for that bold move he made repealing the Presidential moratorium.

When I filled up my car Monday, gas was $4.09. Today, it is $4.15. Thank you George Bush, thank you! 
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 03:07:13 PM »

I would like to thank George W. Bush for that bold move he made repealing the Presidential moratorium.

When I filled up my car Monday, gas was $4.09. Today, it is $4.15. Thank you George Bush, thank you! 

Now ClockerTerry:

Did you go to one of those gas stations that the girls  Kiss are topless?  crossedfingers

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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 05:11:28 PM »


By $0.30 per gallon!!  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Down another $5.00 / barrel this morning.
What's a good communist like the looney mooney going to do should this contonue ??

Hahahahaha! I haven't owned a car since 1980. I'll bet you are regretting your giant SUV purchase. Seeing your posts, I'm guessing you are one of the suckers who bought a Hummer.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2008, 11:19:37 PM »

Now ClockerTerry:

Did you go to one of those gas stations that the girls  Kiss are topless?  crossedfingers

Come on Ken, I'm currently living in a state where they play the national anthem before breakfast, say the pledge at lunch, and sing the state song after dinner. We do not have topless girl gas stations, unlike you unpatriotic hellbound degenerates back east.

On Monday, every gas station on the main drag advertised gas for $4.09.9  Today, all the same gas stations, $4.15.9  So, what miracle favor did George Bush just do me personally by revoking the executive drilling moratorium his daddy declared?
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2008, 12:43:09 AM »

Bill Clinton veto'd drilling in the 90's and the house/Obama don't want to drill today. We'll have $6 Gal if BHO gets in. Looks like I'll have to join Moon and get a Schwin.
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2008, 12:51:40 AM »

Bill Clinton veto'd drilling in the 90's and the house/Obama don't want to drill today. We'll have $6 Gal if BHO gets in. Looks like I'll have to join Moon and get a Schwin.

steve I pretty much proved the oil market in america was and is manipulated (from over on the thoroughbred side.)

want me to go back and dig it out for you or can you find it yourself?
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2008, 01:01:42 AM »

Bill Clinton veto'd drilling in the 90's and the house/Obama don't want to drill today.

The original Congressional moratorium was passed in 1982, on Republican Ron Reagan's watch. The Presidential moratorium Dubya just rescinded was declared by his daddy, Republican GHW Bush. Dubya could have rescinded his daddy's moratorium the day he took office, but didn't. Explain those. You can't reconcile it with the idea those Republican clowns really have the American public's gas price in mind.

I see two explanations.

First, a reasonable one, from a "Trilateral Commission" perspective. Oil reserves the world over are being depleted. Would it not make sense to import oil from other countries while it's still available, and use up their reserves, and save ours for last? Well, of course that wouldn't make sense to the me me me, now now now, borrow and spend, borrow and spend, and screw all our children conservatives like we have on this forum, but from a long term perspective of people with strategic vision, it might. If you believe such people exist.

Second, the more likely one, by taking some U.S. reserves off the table until the price got run way up, the Bush/Cheney oil cartel assured their oil company buddies of far greater profits once those fields were opened up. 
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2008, 01:05:57 AM »

The original Congressional moratorium was passed in 1982, on Republican Ron Reagan's watch. The Presidential moratorium Dubya just rescinded was declared by his daddy, Republican GHW Bush. Dubya could have rescinded his daddy's moratorium the day he took office, but didn't. Explain those. You can't reconcile it with the idea those Republican clowns really have the American public's gas price in mind.

I see two explanations.

First, a reasonable one, from a "Trilateral Commission" perspective. Oil reserves the world over are being depleted. Would it not make sense to import oil from other countries while it's still available, and use up their reserves, and save ours for last? Well, of course that wouldn't make sense to the me me me, now now now, borrow and spend, borrow and spend, and screw all our children conservatives like we have on this forum, but from a long term perspective of people with strategic vision, it might. If you believe such people exist.

Second, the more likely one, by taking some U.S. reserves off the table until the price got run way up, the Bush/Cheney oil cartel assured their oil company buddies of far greater profits once those fields were opened up. 

oh yeah definitely, they're taking peoples money, in so many ways. Exploitation, inflation, taking peoples homes away from them, TAKING their actual cash like folks in line at IndyMac, loss of health insurance, crappy bankruptcy laws, loss of pensions. fraud waste, war-profiteering.   there's not much to like.  In a word it's the New Order for America.



steve and terry i pretty much proved the oil market was and is manipulated (on the thoroughbred side) some time back.

Why is there a NEW thread for this? Kenneth Chadwick started a thread about crude oil some time ago.  Anyone with any business sense knows the market's "frothy".

Want me to go back and dig that up for you or can you find it yourself?
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2008, 01:20:51 AM »

oh yeah definitely, they're taking peoples money, in so many ways. Exploitation, inflation, taking peoples homes away from them, TAKING their actual cash like folks in line at IndyMac, loss of health insurance, crappy bankruptcy laws, loss of pensions. fraud waste, war-profiteering.   there's not much to like.  In a word it's the New Order for America.

Well, you know, as far as a number of these things, there's the reality we all have to compete on a world stage now. Not only companies, but workers, as well. Sorry Charlie.

However, American natural resources belong to Americans. President Cheney has hijacked them to turn over to his buddies at foreign owned multinationals, and that's just not right.
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2008, 01:23:40 AM »

Bill Clinton veto'd drilling in the 90's and the house/Obama don't want to drill today. We'll have $6 Gal if BHO gets in. Looks like I'll have to join Moon and get a Schwin.

Bush 1 "vetoed" offshore drilling (signed an executive order). Arnold the Republican governor of California opposes it. The opposition has been largely bipartisan thus far, in part a NIMBY reaction of the coastal states. This administration's own energy information office has predicted little price reduction because the product (a drop in the global bucket) feeds into a global market.

I'm not saying don't drill.

But don't be delusional about its impact or where gas prices will or won't go depending on the oil policy of which guy is elected.

And don't forget the fundamentals are against us with regard to oil.

Whichever guy has the boldest plan for our FUTURE is the one I'll back.

But you're right about the "H" in BHO. I'd sure never vote for no Muslim. Gas through the flippin' CAMEL's roof!

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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2008, 01:32:53 AM »

Bush 1 "vetoed" offshore drilling (signed an executive order). Arnold the Republican governor of California opposes it. The opposition has been largely bipartisan thus far, in part a NIMBY reaction of the coastal states. This administration's own energy information office has predicted little price reduction because the product (a drop in the global bucket) feeds into a global market.

I'm not saying don't drill.

But don't be delusional about its impact or where gas prices will or won't go depending on the oil policy of which guy is elected.


And don't forget the fundamentals are against us with regard to oil.

Yes with oil companies writing our energy policy, I kind of agree.


Whichever guy has the boldest plan for our FUTURE is the one I'll back.

What plan is that ?


But you're right about the "H" in BHO. I'd sure never vote for no Muslim. Gas through the flippin' CAMEL's roof!


I'd sure never vote for no Muslim either. I'm voting Democratic.
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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2008, 01:37:31 AM »

Yes with oil companies writing our energy policy, I kind of agree.

What plan is that ?

I'd sure never vote for no Muslim either. I'm voting Democratic.

Which plan? Not sure. That's why there's an election.

Have you any taste for satire? Whom do you think was being satirized?

The fundamentals are against us, no matter who's taking it out of the ground or how "crooked" they are.

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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2008, 01:44:59 AM »

Which plan? Not sure. That's why there's an election.

Have you any taste for satire? Whom do you think was being satirized?

The fundamentals are against us, no matter who's taking it out of the ground or how "crooked" they are.



Sorry. I don't know you well. The cover of the New Yorker is satire but is also misunderstood. (and hasn't even been mailed yet)  Now if it were Moon or Terry posted or one of the flag boys, I'd have got it right away. Please accept my apology.
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2008, 03:08:16 AM »

The original Congressional moratorium was passed in 1982, on Republican Ron Reagan's watch. The Presidential moratorium Dubya just rescinded was declared by his daddy, Republican GHW Bush. Dubya could have rescinded his daddy's moratorium the day he took office, but didn't. Explain those. You can't reconcile it with the idea those Republican clowns really have the American public's gas price in mind.

I see two explanations.

First, a reasonable one, from a "Trilateral Commission" perspective. Oil reserves the world over are being depleted. Would it not make sense to import oil from other countries while it's still available, and use up their reserves, and save ours for last? Well, of course that wouldn't make sense to the me me me, now now now, borrow and spend, borrow and spend, and screw all our children conservatives like we have on this forum, but from a long term perspective of people with strategic vision, it might. If you believe such people exist.

Second, the more likely one, by taking some U.S. reserves off the table until the price got run way up, the Bush/Cheney oil cartel assured their oil company buddies of far greater profits once those fields were opened up. 


People like you always say, "Bush/Cheney Oil Cartel", "Bush's Buddies", "Bush's Friends" but never do you ever actually name these people.
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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2008, 07:32:30 AM »

Crude fell over $6 a barrel, which is the largest single day drop in 40 years, immediately after Bush lifted the ban. It then dropped another $4 a barrel the second day. The liberal loons will mess this up again by siding against this country and drilling.
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2008, 07:55:38 AM »

ha

good timing  !!

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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2008, 09:11:31 AM »


People like you always say, "Bush/Cheney Oil Cartel", "Bush's Buddies", "Bush's Friends" but never do you ever actually name these people.

That's rich, coming from the guy who has lead innuendo campaign against Chuck Schumer for the past week.

Or are you just being ironic?

I'll start you you on your way, though. Cheney was CEO of Halliburton. Now, I know that's not an oil company, per se, but they stand to make a TON of money if more drilling gets under way.

As far as Bush goes, start with Herbie Walker, W's uncle (the W stands for Walker - they named  him after the guy) or just google "Midland, Texas".
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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2008, 09:16:56 AM »

Crude fell over $6 a barrel, which is the largest single day drop in 40 years, immediately after Bush lifted the ban. It then dropped another $4 a barrel the second day. The liberal loons will mess this up again by siding against this country and drilling.

Oddly, nobody in the financial community attributed the drop  in oil to Bush's statement. I don't know, maybe Bush's BFF, Larry Kudlow did (I don't watch or listen to him any more)

With regard to crude oil, prices fell 3.1% after a government report showed an unexpected crude and gasoline inventory build, sparking a rally in energy-price sensitive areas.
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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2008, 09:32:23 AM »

Oddly, nobody in the financial community attributed the drop  in oil to Bush's statement.

Gee, I wonder what could have possibly caused it?  Wink Maybe it was the loons who oppose drilling (Obama)? I sure hope the loons hang in there with the drilling ban because it is surely going to cost them the election.  crossedfingers
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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2008, 09:41:09 AM »

Gee, I wonder what could have possibly caused it?  Wink Maybe it was the loons who oppose drilling (Obama)? I sure hope the loons hang in there with the drilling ban because it is surely going to cost them the election.  crossedfingers

Did you miss this?

With regard to crude oil, prices fell 3.1% after a government report showed an unexpected crude and gasoline inventory build, sparking a rally in energy-price sensitive areas.

From nasdaq.com
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« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2008, 09:43:18 AM »

Did you miss this?

With regard to crude oil, prices fell 3.1% after a government report showed an unexpected crude and gasoline inventory build, sparking a rally in energy-price sensitive areas.

From nasdaq.com


You believe that huh?  Cheesy
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« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2008, 10:03:33 AM »

Hahahahaha! I haven't owned a car since 1980. I'll bet you are regretting your giant SUV purchase. Seeing your posts, I'm guessing you are one of the suckers who bought a Hummer.

Ah Comrade Numbnuts---judging from the time you spend typing your interpertation of MoveOn's propaganda, you probably haven't had a real job since that time either.
Tell us comrade, in which of your contributions to the soviet society do you take the most pride.
Wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This can't be the real "looney mooney". The "real" looney takes high offense at anyone who, in his addled mind, uses calling out  "name callers" as a tactic.
You're a liar and a hypocrit comrade. A mouth piece for radical left wing despots/lunatics  such as Huffington, Soros, Ayers, and the daily kos. Probably decades old issues of Tass and Pravda as well.
By the way I have three pickups, one a diesel powered dualie behemoth that would have eaten your 1976 Yugo in one gulp. They both make money each and every day and still, at $5.00 a gallon, turn a profit ( OMG ) what a nasty word in your little elite, arrogant world.
My wife drives a turbocharged Mazda 3. I drive a turbo charged Porsche. I can afford all five vehicles. I can probably buy and/or sell you and your walk-up apartment. I'll put it in the corner of the twenty five acres we own and maybe the horses will take a dump in you kitchen.
The best part of all this comrade is that my Dad never made more than $4.25 an hour his entire life. He didn't pay my way through school. He figured my best route to an advanced education was the group you and yours hate with a passion...the U.S. military. I went to school on the GI Bill comrade, after two great years in Korea. You should applaude that as it was government sponsored. As I earned a couple of scholarships, that subsidy went away...tears you up doesn't it?
The best part is that when I graduated I went to work for a company that saw a little talent and rewarded that talent without my having to negotiate the reward with a union.
After 24 years I retired. Gosh, at only 49 years of age and invested my 401K in the dirty capitalistic markets and in precious metals. Guess what comrade, I was doing so well that I got tired of sitting on my ass, as apparently do you, and re-invested a couple of bucks in a couple broodmares and again started a small company that is suddenly too big to manage alone any longer. I have a couple of guys who manage and hire others now and guess what comrade they are better than well paid as are the people they hire. All are hispanic and each and every one is here in the commonwealth, legally---I ensure that to be true!!!
All are friends before they are employees, even the pair who the others refer too as "the peonistas".
I started all this when, at age 15  I went to work, parttime, at $1.35 an hour
That's my story tovarish. I'll bet your's is a real socialist's wet dream.
Oh yeah---you're damned right I collect Social Security---It's only $1700 a month but it pays for the gas in the Porsche and the Mazda (doesn't that just p@## you off ? ) and ..................I paid for it !!!!!!
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« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2008, 10:14:02 AM »

Ah Comrade Numbnuts---judging from the time you spend typing your interpertation of MoveOn's propaganda, you probably haven't had a real job since that time either.
Tell us comrade, in which of your contributions to the soviet society do you take the most pride.
Wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This can't be the real "looney mooney". The "real" looney takes high offense at anyone who, in his addled mind, uses calling out  "name callers" as a tactic.
You're a liar and a hypocrit comrade. A mouth piece for radical left wing despots/lunatics  such as Huffington, Soros, Ayers, and the daily kos. Probably decades old issues of Tass and Pravda as well.
By the way I have three pickups, one a diesel powered dualie behemoth that would have eaten your 1976 Yugo in one gulp. They both make money each and every day and still, at $5.00 a gallon, turn a profit ( OMG ) what a nasty word in your little elite, arrogant world.
My wife drives a turbocharged Mazda 3. I drive a turbo charged Porsche. I can afford all five vehicles. I can probably buy and/or sell you and your walk-up apartment. I'll put it in the corner of the twenty five acres we own and maybe the horses will take a dump in you kitchen.
The best part of all this comrade is that my Dad never made more than $4.25 an hour his entire life. He didn't pay my way through school. He figured my best route to an advanced education was the group you and yours hate with a passion...the U.S. military. I went to school on the GI Bill comrade, after two great years in Korea. You should applaude that as it was government sponsored. As I earned a couple of scholarships, that subsidy went away...tears you up doesn't it?
The best part is that when I graduated I went to work for a company that saw a little talent and rewarded that talent without my having to negotiate the reward with a union.
After 24 years I retired. Gosh, at only 49 years of age and invested my 401K in the dirty capitalistic markets and in precious metals. Guess what comrade, I was doing so well that I got tired of sitting on my ass, as apparently do you, and re-invested a couple of bucks in a couple broodmares and again started a small company that is suddenly too big to manage alone any longer. I have a couple of guys who manage and hire others now and guess what comrade they are better than well paid as are the people they hire. All are hispanic and each and every one is here in the commonwealth, legally---I ensure that to be true!!!
All are friends before they are employees, even the pair who the others refer too as "the peonistas".
I started all this when, at age 15  I went to work, parttime, at $1.35 an hour
That's my story tovarish. I'll bet your's is a real socialist's wet dream.
Oh yeah---you're damned right I collect Social Security---It's only $1700 a month but it pays for the gas in the Porsche and the Mazda (doesn't that just p@## you off ? ) and ..................I paid for it !!!!!!

Dan,

Best post of the month!  thumbs up
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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2008, 10:17:05 AM »


People like you always say, "Bush/Cheney Oil Cartel", "Bush's Buddies", "Bush's Friends" but never do you ever actually name these people.

The same ones at the secret policy meetings at the beginning of Bush's 1st term.
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« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2008, 10:29:53 AM »

Did you miss this?

With regard to crude oil, prices fell 3.1% after a government report showed an unexpected crude and gasoline inventory build, sparking a rally in energy-price sensitive areas.

From nasdaq.com


Isn't that a commie pinko leftist news source? Is it owned by a foreigner, like Fox News?
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« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2008, 10:31:04 AM »

Ah Comrade Numbnuts---judging from the time you spend typing your interpertation of MoveOn's propaganda, you probably haven't had a real job since that time either.
Tell us comrade, in which of your contributions to the soviet society do you take the most pride.
Wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This can't be the real "looney mooney". The "real" looney takes high offense at anyone who, in his addled mind, uses calling out  "name callers" as a tactic.
You're a liar and a hypocrit comrade. A mouth piece for radical left wing despots/lunatics  such as Huffington, Soros, Ayers, and the daily kos. Probably decades old issues of Tass and Pravda as well.
By the way I have three pickups, one a diesel powered dualie behemoth that would have eaten your 1976 Yugo in one gulp. They both make money each and every day and still, at $5.00 a gallon, turn a profit ( OMG ) what a nasty word in your little elite, arrogant world.
My wife drives a turbocharged Mazda 3. I drive a turbo charged Porsche. I can afford all five vehicles. I can probably buy and/or sell you and your walk-up apartment. I'll put it in the corner of the twenty five acres we own and maybe the horses will take a dump in you kitchen.
The best part of all this comrade is that my Dad never made more than $4.25 an hour his entire life. He didn't pay my way through school. He figured my best route to an advanced education was the group you and yours hate with a passion...the U.S. military. I went to school on the GI Bill comrade, after two great years in Korea. You should applaude that as it was government sponsored. As I earned a couple of scholarships, that subsidy went away...tears you up doesn't it?
The best part is that when I graduated I went to work for a company that saw a little talent and rewarded that talent without my having to negotiate the reward with a union.
After 24 years I retired. Gosh, at only 49 years of age and invested my 401K in the dirty capitalistic markets and in precious metals. Guess what comrade, I was doing so well that I got tired of sitting on my ass, as apparently do you, and re-invested a couple of bucks in a couple broodmares and again started a small company that is suddenly too big to manage alone any longer. I have a couple of guys who manage and hire others now and guess what comrade they are better than well paid as are the people they hire. All are hispanic and each and every one is here in the commonwealth, legally---I ensure that to be true!!!
All are friends before they are employees, even the pair who the others refer too as "the peonistas".
I started all this when, at age 15  I went to work, parttime, at $1.35 an hour
That's my story tovarish. I'll bet your's is a real socialist's wet dream.
Oh yeah---you're damned right I collect Social Security---It's only $1700 a month but it pays for the gas in the Porsche and the Mazda (doesn't that just p@## you off ? ) and ..................I paid for it !!!!!!

Comrade,

You are absolutely and positively terrible in exploiting your fellow comrades.
How dare you to make money?
This is not the real socialistic way.
You must suffer all your life, comrade.
You must feel the pain, like Comrade Barack and Michelle have been preaching for the past 9 months.
You must go to rehabilitation, comrade.

You have a problem by claiming to work for yourself.
You must be dependent upon the government to take care of you.
Yes, comrade, you will learn.


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« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2008, 10:35:09 AM »

Comrade,

You are absolutely and positively terrible in exploiting your fellow comrades.
How dare you to make money?
This is not the real socialistic way.
You must suffer all your life, comrade.
You must feel the pain, like Comrade Barack and Michelle have been preaching for the past 9 months.
You must go to rehabilitation, comrade.

You have a problem by claiming to work for yourself.
You must be dependent upon the government to take care of you.
Yes, comrade, you will learn.

Too bad Dan V. isn't running for something, and then his life history might be relevant.
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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2008, 10:37:23 AM »

You believe that huh?  Cheesy

The nasdaq.com site is excellent. If you just want data, it's right on the front page. If you want to go a little deeper, there's TONS of stuff, almost all of it free.
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« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2008, 10:40:55 AM »

Ah Comrade Numbnuts---judging from the time you spend typing your interpertation of MoveOn's propaganda, you probably haven't had a real job since that time either.
Tell us comrade, in which of your contributions to the soviet society do you take the most pride.
Wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This can't be the real "looney mooney". The "real" looney takes high offense at anyone who, in his addled mind, uses calling out  "name callers" as a tactic.
You're a liar and a hypocrit comrade. A mouth piece for radical left wing despots/lunatics  such as Huffington, Soros, Ayers, and the daily kos. Probably decades old issues of Tass and Pravda as well.
By the way I have three pickups, one a diesel powered dualie behemoth that would have eaten your 1976 Yugo in one gulp. They both make money each and every day and still, at $5.00 a gallon, turn a profit ( OMG ) what a nasty word in your little elite, arrogant world.
My wife drives a turbocharged Mazda 3. I drive a turbo charged Porsche. I can afford all five vehicles. I can probably buy and/or sell you and your walk-up apartment. I'll put it in the corner of the twenty five acres we own and maybe the horses will take a dump in you kitchen.
The best part of all this comrade is that my Dad never made more than $4.25 an hour his entire life. He didn't pay my way through school. He figured my best route to an advanced education was the group you and yours hate with a passion...the U.S. military. I went to school on the GI Bill comrade, after two great years in Korea. You should applaude that as it was government sponsored. As I earned a couple of scholarships, that subsidy went away...tears you up doesn't it?
The best part is that when I graduated I went to work for a company that saw a little talent and rewarded that talent without my having to negotiate the reward with a union.
After 24 years I retired. Gosh, at only 49 years of age and invested my 401K in the dirty capitalistic markets and in precious metals. Guess what comrade, I was doing so well that I got tired of sitting on my ass, as apparently do you, and re-invested a couple of bucks in a couple broodmares and again started a small company that is suddenly too big to manage alone any longer. I have a couple of guys who manage and hire others now and guess what comrade they are better than well paid as are the people they hire. All are hispanic and each and every one is here in the commonwealth, legally---I ensure that to be true!!!
All are friends before they are employees, even the pair who the others refer too as "the peonistas".
I started all this when, at age 15  I went to work, parttime, at $1.35 an hour
That's my story tovarish. I'll bet your's is a real socialist's wet dream.
Oh yeah---you're damned right I collect Social Security---It's only $1700 a month but it pays for the gas in the Porsche and the Mazda (doesn't that just p@## you off ? ) and ..................I paid for it !!!!!!

So you took a lot of subsidies and you are still subsidies from the government. COMRADE!!

The problem for you is, that you apparently can refute anything I post. You have to go off on a long rant about your life (which nobody is interesting in). But, typical fat cat, whining about oil prices and taxes while taking Social Security and subsidies. I don't care what you own, but quit whining about paying taxes when the biggest expenditure is stuff you are using (Social Security) and stuff you support (endless war).

Just so you know, other than unemployment once (and I had to pay part of it back!), I get no money from the government.  I have worked for 45 years already, mostly full time since I was 10 years old. With your college subsidies and Social Security, you have received a LOT more money than I ever got from the Government, Socialist.
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« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2008, 10:44:16 AM »

I really don't care about the dude. a lot of people have the knack for making money.

I did ok myself.

For some people, that's all they live for.

Othe people like that Mark Levin dude on the radio will do or say anything for a buck.

That's just the way it is.
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« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2008, 04:10:53 PM »


People like you always say, "Bush/Cheney Oil Cartel", "Bush's Buddies", "Bush's Friends" but never do you ever actually name these people.

Are you aware that George HW Bush made his money in a firm called Zapata oil, which then grew and merged and became Pennzoil??

That George W Bush tried to the same thing, but failed?

These guys have more contacts and more friends in oil than maybe anyone in the US.
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« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2008, 06:08:56 PM »

Are you aware that George HW Bush made his money in a firm called Zapata oil, which then grew and merged and became Pennzoil??

That George W Bush tried to the same thing, but failed?

These guys have more contacts and more friends in oil than maybe anyone in the US.

So what, Obsama Obama has friends that are thieves, racist's, terrorists and murderers. You're OK with that I presume? They should go after Murtha's earmarks, then they would make more money!  sneaky
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« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2008, 08:49:49 PM »

So what, Obsama Obama has friends that are thieves, racist's, terrorists and murderers. You're OK with that I presume? They should go after Murtha's earmarks, then they would make more money!  sneaky

I wouldn't be, if you could show that ANY of that is true. You could start with Obama's name. Is it really Obsama Obama, or do you feel the need to belittle him to shore up your manhood, or what?
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« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2008, 09:03:21 PM »

Dan,

Best post of the month!  thumbs up


I second the nomination
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« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2008, 11:15:31 PM »


I second the nomination

I loved it too!  And it was entertaining, unlike most other posts!

Just for the record, the speculation in the oil market which is now down $16/barrel in the last 3 days, is that some of the big investment banks have been selling out their long positions to raise capital.  This could create more waves of selling or it could be a very short-lived event.  Either way, the reports of full tankers sitting on waterways with no place to sell/deliver their oil can't be hurting things.  This according to CNBC today.
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« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2008, 12:42:20 AM »

Are you aware that George HW Bush made his money in a firm called Zapata oil, which then grew and merged and became Pennzoil??

That George W Bush tried to the same thing, but failed?

These guys have more contacts and more friends in oil than maybe anyone in the US.


Bush has friends in oil.

Barack Obama has friends who are terrorists.

I'd rather have the oil guy
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« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2008, 12:52:09 AM »

I loved it too!  And it was entertaining, unlike most other posts!

Just for the record, the speculation in the oil market which is now down $16/barrel in the last 3 days, is that some of the big investment banks have been selling out their long positions to raise capital.  This could create more waves of selling or it could be a very short-lived event.  Either way, the reports of full tankers sitting on waterways with no place to sell/deliver their oil can't be hurting things.  This according to CNBC today.

The funnier one today was New Jersey Governor Jon Corzine on the Steve Malzberg Radio Show today on WOR-710AM in New York. Corzine was asked if he would now favor ocean drilling.

This clown says that he favors it off the California and Gulf Coasts but NOT the eact coast. The reasons he gave were:
1) Geological surveys from over 30 years ago show that the Atlantic would not have as much oil potential as the Gulf or West Coasts.

2) New Jersey could not handle a spill from a off shore drill or an accident at a platform.

I love these Liberals who tewll us what we must have and need and then add, "But not in my backyard". I hate to break it to the Governor but isnt it possible that new geological technology 30 years later could find more oil then first suspected?

Next, I love the guy saying he is afraid of spills. Freakin Hurricane Katrina destroyed 99% of a majopr American city and not a drop of oil leaked from the platforms in the Gulf of Mexico where the storm passed through.
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« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2008, 02:43:35 AM »

Ah Comrade Numbnuts---judging from the time you spend typing your interpertation of MoveOn's propaganda, you probably haven't had a real job since that time either.
Tell us comrade, in which of your contributions to the soviet society do you take the most pride.
Wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This can't be the real "looney mooney". The "real" looney takes high offense at anyone who, in his addled mind, uses calling out  "name callers" as a tactic.
You're a liar and a hypocrit comrade. A mouth piece for radical left wing despots/lunatics  such as Huffington, Soros, Ayers, and the daily kos. Probably decades old issues of Tass and Pravda as well.
By the way I have three pickups, one a diesel powered dualie behemoth that would have eaten your 1976 Yugo in one gulp. They both make money each and every day and still, at $5.00 a gallon, turn a profit ( OMG ) what a nasty word in your little elite, arrogant world.
My wife drives a turbocharged Mazda 3. I drive a turbo charged Porsche. I can afford all five vehicles. I can probably buy and/or sell you and your walk-up apartment. I'll put it in the corner of the twenty five acres we own and maybe the horses will take a dump in you kitchen.
The best part of all this comrade is that my Dad never made more than $4.25 an hour his entire life. He didn't pay my way through school. He figured my best route to an advanced education was the group you and yours hate with a passion...the U.S. military. I went to school on the GI Bill comrade, after two great years in Korea. You should applaude that as it was government sponsored. As I earned a couple of scholarships, that subsidy went away...tears you up doesn't it?
The best part is that when I graduated I went to work for a company that saw a little talent and rewarded that talent without my having to negotiate the reward with a union.
After 24 years I retired. Gosh, at only 49 years of age and invested my 401K in the dirty capitalistic markets and in precious metals. Guess what comrade, I was doing so well that I got tired of sitting on my ass, as apparently do you, and re-invested a couple of bucks in a couple broodmares and again started a small company that is suddenly too big to manage alone any longer. I have a couple of guys who manage and hire others now and guess what comrade they are better than well paid as are the people they hire. All are hispanic and each and every one is here in the commonwealth, legally---I ensure that to be true!!!
All are friends before they are employees, even the pair who the others refer too as "the peonistas".
I started all this when, at age 15  I went to work, parttime, at $1.35 an hour
That's my story tovarish. I'll bet your's is a real socialist's wet dream.
Oh yeah---you're damned right I collect Social Security---It's only $1700 a month but it pays for the gas in the Porsche and the Mazda (doesn't that just p@## you off ? ) and ..................I paid for it !!!!!!

Wow. Didn't know things were so tough. No WONDER, the bitterness.

On behalf of all who may disagree with your views, whose "American stories" aren't nearly as compelling as yours and are therefore illegitimate, who gladly accept your mantle of "comrade" despite their American upbringing, and who have worked their own share of 16-hour days in order to afford a computer to spout off on ....

... I kneel and apologize. Oh, just for everything. Enjoy your gasoline.
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« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2008, 03:24:33 AM »



Barack Obama has friends who are terrorists.


Who?
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« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2008, 04:30:50 AM »

 BSmeter  BSmeter  more  BSmeter


Next, I love the guy saying he is afraid of spills. Freakin Hurricane Katrina destroyed 99% of a majopr American city and not a drop of oil leaked from the platforms in the Gulf of Mexico where the storm passed through.

400,000 bbl tanker spill in NewOrleans harbour just last week
Also Wells and derricks constantly leak oil. In the oil business its called wastage. BSmeter
You are misinformed
New Orelans was allready cleaning up after KAtrina which hit directly not NOLA but sounthern Missisippi. Biloxi.  While In process of clean up NOLA people report they see water bubbling up out of the sewers

Latr official version is Barges , three barges broke through three levies. 
three barges ??
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« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2008, 06:53:37 AM »

BSmeter  BSmeter  more  BSmeter

400,000 bbl tanker spill in NewOrleans harbour just last week
Also Wells and derricks constantly leak oil. In the oil business its called wastage. BSmeter
You are misinformed
New Orelans was allready cleaning up after KAtrina which hit directly not NOLA but sounthern Missisippi. Biloxi.  While In process of clean up NOLA people report they see water bubbling up out of the sewers

Latr official version is Barges , three barges broke through three levies. 
three barges ??



You are comparing apples and oranges. You are talking about a tanker. I am talking about the actual platform and rig. My point is all the Lefties who say that there are oil spills because of the drilling are just wrong.

As far as the tankers are concerned. Of course there are going to be accidents. That happens with any mode of transportation. Anybody who claims we shouldnt drill because of the tankers is just shortsighted.

Those large 18-wheel trucks that carry nine or ten new cars at a time to dealerships have accidents. Should we just ban them?

We have had a couple of cruise ship accidents/fires the last couple of years. Should Congress just ban Royal Caribbean and Carnival.

We have mile long trails transporting good across this nation on a daily basis and they derail. Should Nancy Pelosi just get a law passed to end rail traffic?

Claiming accidents is just Obama/Pelosi scare tactics
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« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2008, 07:02:44 AM »

Who?


William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. Both are or were members of a group called the Weather Underground, which has taken credit for 25 bombings including ones in New York City. Obama became buddies with them when he was first chosen to run for the Illinois Senate in 1995.

They have appeared together many times and in 2001, Ayers told the New York Times that, "I feel we (The Weather Underground) didn't do enough".
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« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2008, 08:25:49 AM »


You are comparing apples and oranges. You are talking about a tanker. I am talking about the actual platform and rig. My point is all the Lefties who say that there are oil spills because of the drilling are just wrong.


No comparisons made.  Tankers are tankers. A tanker spilled 400,000 bbbls of crude into New Orleans Harbour last week.
Wells and derricks constantly leak oil. In the oil business its called wastage.
You are misinformed.

Claiming accidents is just scare tactics

You're bluffing  Itwas in the paper.

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No comparisons made.  Tankers are tankers. A tanker spilled 400,000 bbbls of crude into New Orleans Harbour last week.
Wells and derricks constantly leak oil. In the oil business its called wastage.
You are misinformed.

You're bluffing  Itwas in the paper.



I understand wastage. That is one of the things they are *** about in California.

My point is that the tankers have to do with the transportation of the product, not the production of it.

When it comes to the transportation of any product. Be it tanker, truck, rail or plane, there will be accidents. You dont ban the entire product because of that. The oil rigs are not perfect but they have a low accident leak.

Hell, we just had an atomic sub leak in Japan. Should we now mothball all nuclear subs?
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« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2008, 08:50:24 AM »

wastage. That is one of the things they are *** about in California.


The oil rigs are not perfect .

Hell, we just had an atomic sub leak in Japan.


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