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Author Topic: bill to reduce Fairmount parimutuel tax  (Read 1506 times)
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« on: January 31, 2006, 01:04:12 PM »

Item from downstate says there's a bill advancing through the Assembly that would cut Fairmount's state parimutuel tax from 1.5% to 0.25%. Nothing in the article says Fairmount would use that money to offset the ridiculous surcharges they charge their customers, or anything like that, but the article does say the cut would "increase purse winnings" and keep Fairmount viable. What it doesn't say is how much money the State has to spend annually to regulate and administer racing at Fairmount Park and its OTBs. After this cut the amount it collects there would probably would be so low that horse racing there would be essentially a taxpayer subsidized activity.

http://www.belleville.com/mld/belleville/business/13753352.htm?source=rss&channel=belleville_business
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2006, 01:45:35 PM »

Does anyone have any ideas how to help Fairmount out?   horse
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2006, 01:56:19 PM »

Does anyone have any ideas how to help Fairmount out?   horse

Give everyone a $25,000 voucher good only at FP. Gairmount borrowes the kaish from a local bank and repays outta the juice. Gauranteed money.
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They ought to return to Tampa and fix the mistake they made.
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2006, 07:17:54 PM »

Give everyone a $25,000 voucher good only at FP. Gairmount borrowes the kaish from a local bank and repays outta the juice. Gauranteed money.

I still wouldn't go.

Fairmount Park rates right at the top of experiences I never want to repeat again: a dull, downtrodden track in depressed surroundings, offering cards filled with lame and half-dead animals, ridden by jocks who can't get a mount anywhere else in the world, bet on by fat toothless beer-bellied losers, all wearing their finest St. Louis Cardinals garb -- and those are the women. I won't even describe the men -- you might have just eaten supper.

I'd rather endure a lengthly and painful IRS audit sooner than I'd ever go back to that shithole.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2006, 07:38:44 PM »

Ouch thats harsh lol
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2006, 08:19:21 PM »

Does anyone have any ideas how to help Fairmount out?   horse

One thing I'd suggest is getting them all the way out from under the albatross of harness racing. They haven't raced harness there in years, but still have to fork over 30% or some such of all the purse money they make from night simulcast to harness horsemen. The purses they earn from their facilities should fund the racing at their facility.

Or, if the powers that be believe Fairmount should be in business to earn purses for horses that don't run at the track, get the harness horsemen or the downstate fair organizations to help pay the salaries, operational expenses, and so on that's required to collect that simulcast purse money at both the ITW and the Fairmount OTBs.  Fairmount has to spend money to put simulcasting in front of people downstate, and purse money it generates goes to support racing at another facility, free of charge. That's crap.

The way it is now it's just a subsidy of harness horsemen and harness meets by a thoroughbred racetrack. No logic or reasonable fairness to it at all, just the stupidity of law. The State treats the place like a socialized State-owned facility instead of a private business, and decides where the earnings go. Maybe Fairmount should be able to take harness recapture out of those harness purses.
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2006, 04:58:32 PM »

Give everyone a $25,000 voucher good only at FP. Gairmount borrowes the kaish from a local bank and repays outta the juice. Gauranteed money.

Pretty crazy idea, but POINT taken. Median per capita income in madison county where is FP is about $10-$11 per hour. That's not much to raise up a family. The region is very predominantly caucasian. The Air Force Base is the biggest employer. Public works projects keep the region solvent. Unemployment has increased and they have crime. I got this off the internet. Probably more $ running the place as a tavern than as a racetrack. LOL. There are riverboat casinos nearby, I don't know where or how many. There is a history behind the track but I not have chance to read up.
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2006, 05:53:49 PM »

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Boycott it. geezer
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2006, 06:06:59 PM »

Boycott it. geezer

we have a winner. 
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2006, 09:37:58 PM »

I still wouldn't go.

Fairmount Park rates right at the top of experiences I never want to repeat again: a dull, downtrodden track in depressed surroundings, offering cards filled with lame and half-dead animals, ridden by jocks who can't get a mount anywhere else in the world, bet on by fat toothless beer-bellied losers, all wearing their finest St. Louis Cardinals garb -- and those are the women. I won't even describe the men -- you might have just eaten supper.

Come on, it's not THAT bad. Yes, it's a grim place, and yes the concessions are the worst, and yes first floor grandstand simulcasting area is scary, but that place is a fun racetrack to visit on a Friday or Saturday night. People out on the apron there are having a good time and partying. That's more than can be said for a good number of racetracks and most OTB's, where everyone walks around all day grimacing and groaning like someone is pulling their teeth without anesthesia.
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2006, 01:40:33 PM »

Come on, it's not THAT bad. Yes, it's a grim place, and yes the concessions are the worst, and yes first floor grandstand simulcasting area is scary, but that place is a fun racetrack to visit on a Friday or Saturday night. People out on the apron there are having a good time and partying. That's more than can be said for a good number of racetracks and most OTB's, where everyone walks around all day grimacing and groaning like someone is pulling their teeth without anesthesia.


You have gotta be kidding me!  The post you quoted stated it well.  I suppose I prefer walking around with pissin and moanin bettors than being assaulted/groped/harassed by some heathenistic gang bangers/illegitimate track children/bettors or trainers who juice themselves.  Should we talk about the drug addict employees, or perhaps the dealing trainers or agents?  Oh yeah, gotta love the Cardinals garb, let's not forget the Rams either, AND you can't ever see enough of the green and white stripes and shamrocks coming out of Louie O'Brien's stable, like everyone's fighting for second and third, doesn't bring much in a $3,200 claimer.  Okay, now that everyone knows how I feel about Fairmont, it's recycled dog food, and "colorful characters," go on your merry way. 
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2006, 03:00:22 PM »

"That's more than can be said for a good number of racetracks and most OTB's, where everyone walks around all day grimacing and groaning like someone is pulling their teeth without anesthesia."

I love that sentence!  How true!  What a sorry lot we appear to be or are.  We are probably another reason racing is going down.

On a more positive note, I think we have found a ghost writer for John Frank's book.  John has all the ideas but has trouble communicating them.  Terry can put them in a nice slick package.  "My thoughts on horse racing and everything else" by John Frank as presented by Terry B.
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2006, 11:55:43 PM »

On a more positive note, I think we have found a ghost writer for John Frank's book.  John has all the ideas but has trouble communicating them.  Terry can put them in a nice slick package.  "My thoughts on horse racing and everything else" by John Frank as presented by Terry B.

No, I think deep down we all want to see John Frank do the work himself. He talks a lot about it, but I haven't seen any evidence that real progess is being made. Ted researched his book, wrote it, got it edited, and then finally published, in less time than John has now been talking. Ted is going to have two more books finished and John will still be talking. I think it would be therapeutic for John to do this work himself. Build character.

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