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Michigan Dale
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« on: November 01, 2005, 09:07:56 AM »

Permit me to begin by saying I've never been to Saginaw Harness Raceway.   I only know of it as a small 'B' track for lower end horses to race.   For some, its been a proving ground.   For others, a place where former class horses end up their racing careers.   Nonetheless, it was a racetrack in Michigan that featured Harness Racing.   As of October 30th, its history.   Its gone, and I find that sad.   Horsemen with one less place to race, people that had jobs at the facility where given no notice and are now in the unemployment lines.   Michigan folks can look directly at the result of last year's infamous 'Proposal 1' that duped the voters and was backed by over 10 million dollars of Indian Casino money and funds from the three Detroit area Casino's.  Effectively, the mis-guided voters passed a constitutional amendment that virtually killed any chance of slots at the racetracks.   Geronimo and his Detroit Casino warriors cleverly exempted themselves from the amendment and left the door open to expand their own brand of gambling while delivering a crushing blow to racing industry.   My own way of protest and I encourage others to do the same is this - never, EVER patronize a Indian Casino in Michigan or Detroit Commercial Casino again and encourage others to do the same - that is, if you were into visiting those venues in the first place.    Stay away and continue to throw your support behind the trotters and pacers!
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2005, 09:15:12 AM »

The "B" tracks go first.
Then the lower tiered "A" tracks will succumb.
We will eventually be left with a handful of satelitte tracks wth people watching at home with betting accounts.
I used to think that chicago might be one of thsoe that would remain, but that is looking less likely these days!
I stumbled upon a few old winners circle photos from Muskegeon race course.
No more schools for kids like "Jr." or horses needing a first or second on their card (like a few of mine) to get into Sportsman's Park during the summer.
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2005, 09:24:32 AM »

Thanks for the info Dale.  I know I've advocated consolidating efforts in your great state before, but your mention of jobs lost in a state where job loss has been a 25 year-old epidemic makes me reconsider such a stance.  Those scrounges really did a number, hoodwinking the voters to go for Prop 1, and it puts the state's remaining concerns in peril to be sure.  After going to a few  Motor City Paces and Roses are Red finals, I'm saddened that the voters didn't see the measure for what it was - a legislative grant of a oligopoly to Tonto and his downtown casino buddies.  At the very least, the tracks should get a piece of their action, a la the Meadowlands deal with AC (NJ, your understanding here of that deal would be appreciated).  I chose  after the Motor City one year NOT to go downtown and patronize those places, choosing instead to go go nearby Warren and a place called John- John's, which I believe is a gentleman's club.  The local economy was stimulated until the wee hours, and I made it a true Daily Double by heading home to catch a Bal card.  The real disappointment in all this is the "new kids" on the wagering block get all the perks and the established businesses get the shaft.  TC  
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2005, 10:26:05 AM »

What a shame. Maybe Chicago tracks can hire whoever did the announcing at Saginaw. Who did anyway?
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2005, 10:59:53 AM »

It's a shame.  Racing in Michigan has been on a steep downward slide since the late 80's.  Purses are so small (even at Hazel) that it makes it foolish to put capital into the business.  Many of the better horses/owners have found their way to other jurisdictions. 

The competition for the entertainment/gambling dollar will not come back to less than average racing.  I find myself not even wagering on the Michigan races that are right in front of me.  Toronto and New Jersey seem to have more formful racing for my wagering dollar. 

The goose is dieing.

Illinois sounds like it is next.

Very sad.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2005, 01:12:53 PM »

Always hate to see a track close.

Darn it, I wanted to get out there too -- that was the 1/2 with the REALLY long stretch, right?  I think they started six across?

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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2005, 02:25:29 PM »

No EW, it was a half mile track with banked turns so steep if you stopped your horse to turn on the turn you might just tip over!!! the turns were banked like a car track!!! and the tote board was on wheels!!! no big loss, the place was a dump!!! the next one to go will be Sports Creek another Dump!!! these track owners want to run these meets to make cash but they dont want to put a quarter into the place!!!
There isnt one nice facility in Michigan, that rat infested dump Hazel park thought they would be able to open a Racino so they did a little remodeling of the grandstand and when that got shot down it all stopped. The backstetch is HORRIBLE rats and roaches everywhere!!! The only good thing about Hazel park is my freind the clerk of the course KIM!!! hi KIM!!!
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2005, 02:49:39 PM »

Bulletin from Mich. Sports creek announced that come December everyone must vacate the grounds there will be no backstetch they will run a shortmeet and it will be all ship ins
They are trying to save money on water , heat, manure removal ect.

sounds to me like you boys in the motor city better get you stories straight for the authorities at the Ambassodor bridge cause the only decent place to go will be across the river in Windsor!!!
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2005, 03:43:25 PM »

Saginaw=600 ft stretch.1/2 mile track
Never been there.
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2005, 04:07:10 PM »

it is a sad thing to see a track close. for a bad track to close something good has to happen elsewhere. just found out that penn national bought raceway park and after the meet ends in december they will rebuild the backside, paddock and grandstand. ohio racetracks are also getting slots either next year or the following year. purses at raceway will be bigger than they are here. lmao. looks like the chicago stock will be going to raceway pretty quick. lol. lord help us all.
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2005, 04:49:30 PM »

I haven't heard anything about Sports Creek in December, as was previously stated.   However, I can tell you as of yesterday, they were awarded 82 dates for 2006.   1-6-06 through 2-12-06 and then 8-12-06 through 12-31-06.   Racing will take place three days a week, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
Speaking of Michigan - anybody notice the 'Michigan Exacta' in the $275,000 Windy City Pace last week?    Thin Blue Line (Oldfield Farms, Michigan) finishes first ahead of L & L DeVisser's (Holland, Michigan) Gold Dust Beach.   An all Michigan Exacta in the Windy City Pace!   Very interesting.   I must say this - sn is right about Windsor.   Many of the 'smart' ones have crossed the bridge or used the tunnel to pick up the loot and scoot in Windsor.   Leading trainer there is from Michigan as well.
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2005, 04:53:47 PM »

Michigan Dale, take what I say to the bank!!! I only print the truth!!! The barn area is CLOSED!!! as of Dec. 1st!!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2005, 01:24:49 AM »

Shut them all down because they're nothing but dumps.
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