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« on: March 06, 2008, 03:28:10 PM »

I see Michigan Dale is badmouthing BTW on another forum.
It's funny about this guy.
He voices his disgust with a number of posters here.
He voices displeasure about being put on ignore by a number of posters here.
But............
It didn't bother him one bit that the posters he got chummy with at the other site day in day out posted racist filth and lies about the people involved in harness racing.
He never called them out.

If you sleep with the filth, you'll get up with the fleas.
I think the fleas are right at home with him and vice versa.
In my mind he is no better than the dishonest web owner andhis cronies.
Good riddance Michigan Dale!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2008, 03:39:56 PM »

Ditto Burton.  Good riddance to you, and thank you sir.   Thought I was on 'ignore?'    You've got a strange way of interpreting badmouthing particularly since you're the expert in the field.   What a joke.  Keep working on it, you'll take BTW down in no time.  That's not badmouthing, that's a cold hard fact.   
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2008, 03:48:46 PM »

BTW was here before the others and will be here long after the site is sold.

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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 03:56:06 PM »

Sold? If you mean the other site it is valueless. No one is buying it. I wouldn't take it and their 5 clones for free.
It offers not 1 redeemable aspect.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 03:59:50 PM »

Sold? If you mean the other site it is valueless. No one is buying it. I wouldn't take it and their 5 clones for free.
It offers not 1 redeemable aspect.

I think you underestimate the value of dung these days.

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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 04:07:19 PM »

399$ sounded high to me. Truth is if you offered a link from BTW or ITS to my site id gladly welcome the people. I would not want the dung. So to me personally it is truly valueless.
Janine is a nice lady. I could never thank her enough for her help and understanding.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 04:07:19 PM »


        Dale ,

          Do these selected posters have names that run BTW ?

          I just dont understand your comment considering *** has the crew of posters that run the site !  Why didn't you mention .

                                       RTP
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2008, 04:15:11 PM »

399$ sounded high to me. Truth is if you offered a link from BTW or ITS to my site id gladly welcome the people. I would not want the dung. So to me personally it is truly valueless.
Janine is a nice lady. I could never thank her enough for her help and understanding.

My comment was made dung in cheek.

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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2008, 04:21:21 PM »

I see Michigan Dale is badmouthing BTW on another forum.
It's funny about this guy.
He voices his disgust with a number of posters here.
He voices displeasure about being put on ignore by a number of posters here.
But............
It didn't bother him one bit that the posters he got chummy with at the other site day in day out posted racist filth and lies about the people involved in harness racing.
He never called them out.

If you sleep with the filth, you'll get up with the fleas.
I think the fleas are right at home with him and vice versa.
In my mind he is no better than the dishonest web owner andhis cronies.
Good riddance Michigan Dale!!!!!!!!!!!

What is wrong with you Burton? Save it for trolls and ex trolls. Dale never said or did anything bad to any poster of this forum. You are mad because he won't fight your fights for you on hogslop.
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2008, 04:29:22 PM »

What is wrong with you Burton? Save it for trolls and ex trolls. Dale never said or did anything bad to any poster of this forum. You are mad because he won't fight your fights for you on hogslop.
I don't read *** anymore.
I saw this on in the sulky.
I didn't appreciate his badmouthing BTW.
I found it odd that he says this site is run by 5 individuals.
Like RTP, I'd like to know who those five people are?
Whether it's on *** or not, I find antisemitism and the like despicable.
In his own way he promotes it.

His silence about it says it all.

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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2008, 04:36:49 PM »

I don't read *** anymore.
I saw this on in the sulky.
I didn't appreciate his badmouthing BTW.
I found it odd that he says this site is run by 5 individuals.
Like RTP, I'd like to know who those five people are?
Whether it's on *** or not, I find antisemitism and the like despicable.
In his own way he promotes it.

His silence about it says it all.

I went to read the sulky post. He didn't name names. For all the abuse he takes from BTW posters he should feel disgusted. He didn't do anything wrong here. His only crime is dare to post on hogslop!
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2008, 04:41:06 PM »

Not going to dung is the only way to register your dissatisfaction. If you go there and give them a unique hit and a page view you are in some way supporting the crap. I no longer give them a single page view. It is really the only tool we have. Be like Burton and myself and don't even give them 1 page view. Its all they care about.
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2008, 04:42:16 PM »

I went to read the sulky post. He didn't name names. For all the abuse he takes from BTW posters he should feel disgusted. He didn't do anything wrong here. His only crime is dare to post on hogslop!
The amount of people who ignore him is a good barometer of what the average poster here thinks of him.
Enough said.

I applaud LV Gary for banning plopsters from his forum.
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2008, 05:25:34 PM »

I don't read *** anymore.


I don't read it anymore either. What is there to read anyway. Dan telling everyone how great he is. Dan telling everyone how great Vegas is. Dan talking to trolls and thinking they are that person cause he is not smart enough to realize it is a troll,Dan saying he never lies, except he forgot what he posted 5 minutes ago and then changes his story around,  2,000 troll names acting as other posters posting bullshit, T.C Kissing Dan's ass after his every post. Well If you enjoy that, go ahead and read it. I stopped a while ago and deleted the link I had to get in thru the back door since I can't view it any other way since I am banned.
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2008, 05:29:04 PM »

What is wrong with you Burton? Save it for trolls and ex trolls. Dale never said or did anything bad to any poster of this forum. You are mad because he won't fight your fights for you on hogslop.

Burton has always done a good job at calling people out for what they really are.  I applaud his efforts to clean up this website.  If Michigan Dale is lying with dogs, he'll get fleas.  The Bustout Nances are definitely dogs.  I do not blame SN though. His brother sabotaged his return because he would not keep his mouth shut on the internet like I repeatedly warned him to do.

SN- They'll never bust you out?  Your brother did.

Dan ***, a waste of human DNA...
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2008, 05:37:13 PM »

Cmon pezz they get 20  new members every day. That's how you get to be #1 and stay there.
If someone can find me the 20 new members every day or the 3500 members I will play Dixie out my ass with a kazoo.
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2008, 05:38:53 PM »

Cmon pezz they get 20  new members every day. That's how you get to be #1 and stay there.
If someone can find me the 20 new members every day or the 3500 members I will play Dixie out my ass with a kazoo.
Yeah well someone has a lot of time on their hands just sitting at home all day, so why not make up 20 email addresses and 20 new names!!!!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2008, 05:44:08 PM »

You give them to much credit Pezz. As administration I can activate an account with no email.
So they aren't even going through the effort of emails. For instance the JWR imposter there had some BS email. I will gladly sit down and debunk every aspect of their scams.
But yes they don't even need emails for what they are doing. It shocked me to. It took me running a forum to really grasp their game/fraud.
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2008, 06:04:02 PM »

As of a few months ago the fbi report on pinching and other scams that webmasters do to their members but checking Ip's and doing serch on the member is now braking the law. If so person is caught it is filed under the internet identity theft  law held in place by the F.B.I its self and if one is found doing this as in posting Ip's of members telling who some one is and posting names and Ip's that person can and will be if proven facing 3 to 5 years in one of our very nice fed pins. Just to let you all know...  trotter
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2008, 06:11:59 PM »

Yeah well someone has a lot of time on their hands just sitting at home all day, so why not make up 20 email addresses and 20 new names!!!!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2008, 06:17:11 PM »

somewhere in jersey,chicago and ohio there's 3 people with no skin on the tip of their fingers
LMAO!!!
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2008, 06:31:33 PM »

somewhere in jersey,chicago and ohio there's 3 people with no skin on the tip of their fingers


I think you forgot Vegas. LOL! beer
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2008, 09:05:00 PM »

Let's set the record straight.
My beef in my original post concerned Michigan Dale''s comments about BTW.
Hence the title of the thread.
I didn't mean to make this about ***.
Tonymfan brought up ***.

Here is a direct quote from Michigan Dale:
"BTW used to be #1 but has become pretty lame controlled by a handful that are fouling up the works over there. I'm on ignore by 5 members? That's a crock of bs and its there loss not mine."

This is about the kind of hypocrit this man is.
PERIOD!
Let's get it back on topic.
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2008, 09:08:59 PM »

I am sorry I  hijack
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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2008, 01:10:57 AM »

Does anyone here really have a problem with Dale?

I love the sport as much as anyone, but he takes it to another level...following his steed all around the Midwest trying to bum amateur drives.  If this doesn't garner respect -- what will?!?

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« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2008, 01:21:30 AM »

Does anyone here really have a problem with Dale?

I love the sport as much as anyone, but he takes it to another level...following his steed all around the Midwest trying to bum amateur drives.  If this doesn't garner respect -- what will?!?

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    Edward ,    Real simple you get respect by giving respect !  Dale didn't need to bring BTW in his comments on the beef he had on inthesulky !

         That was wrong and uncalled for period ! 

         His love for racing is not in question ! 

         We all love racing .              RTP
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« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2008, 01:28:05 AM »

We all love racing .              RTP

I'm not sure if I really believe this -- it seems like there are many here that would relish in the collapse of Chicago harness.

I can't defend Dale's comments on BTW, but I do think he's a stand up guy.  He's been nothing but a gentleman in the past, so I'll take the unpopular position here...

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« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2008, 01:44:07 AM »

Another day. Another soap opera.
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« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2008, 06:32:16 AM »

I'm not sure if I really believe this -- it seems like there are many here that would relish in the collapse of Chicago harness.

I can't defend Dale's comments on BTW, but I do think he's a stand up guy.  He's been nothing but a gentleman in the past, so I'll take the unpopular position here...

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EW             Ok  I'll bite are there any on this thread that wish racing would collapse ?   You cant defend his comment !  Why not ? This isn't a bash its a fact that the comment was wrong and he apparently doesn't think it was wrong and thats his choice and his position or he would have said he chose his words wrong on this thread !  We all have our principles and many times they differ !  Dale is a grown man and can post wherever he wants !  I could care less as long as I'm not included as one of the selected posters that are ruin BTW on that comment he made where certain posters run the site !  I think your suppose to read between the words and figure out if your included !  I asked who the posters are he mean't without an answer !  Hardly stand up to not explain the comment better than he did which was nothing !

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« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2008, 06:38:45 AM »


Excellent point RTP! thumbs up
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« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2008, 07:58:29 AM »

I was not going to reply to this utterly ridiculous thread, children.   However, when its apparent Mr. Burton cannot read or understand the English language it becomes necessary....then RTP asks a question implying I said BTW has only five members.   Read it, people read it.......and go to the source - the merry ringleader that began all the hoopla, Mr. NJ Horseman himself.   THAT is where the '5' came from, not me.   HE said I am on 'ignore' by 5 people at BTW.   Evidently he knows everything and those five must be sharing PM's all day long otherwise why make such a statement?   I'm more the man Burton will ever hope to be.   Damn, I said that?   The guy says on this forum not long ago he has me on 'ignore' but guess what?  NOT the case....evidently he can't get enough of me.   Too bad so sad.   I wish one of the sites ill will.   I really don't.   But I will say this, and it took me a loooooong time to understand it.   Burton is killing this site, taking it down.   Congratulations hotshot.   Now go ahead, folks continue the feeding frenzy that I likely am fueling here.   I should know better.   Online battles and wars of words cannot be won.  Its impossible.

Here's a final thought - why not try and get back to the basics of talking harness racing and not Michigan Dale, or HP, or ITS or Dan ***, or dictating who should post where and how they should think?   This site would be so much better.   I'm a peaceful guy that is not interested in picking fights or engaging in them.  I have only tried for severallyears to present positive, sometimes humorous posts regarding a sport I love and to be cordial about it.   Those who know me well know that's the case.   Others may not want to know or draw their own conclusions.   Its sad, very sad. 

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« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2008, 08:08:38 AM »

OK Dale, then why can't your friends at HP stay on topic and talk about harness racing instead of jews and porn?
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« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2008, 08:24:17 AM »

Does anyone here really have a problem with Dale?

I love the sport as much as anyone, but he takes it to another level...following his steed all around the Midwest trying to bum amateur drives.  If this doesn't garner respect -- what will?!?

Best,
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Just because he is involved in amatuer racing does not make him an outstanding individual.
I look at more than an individuals hobbies when making a judgement on the kind of person they are.
Evidently his love for the game of harness racing does not run deep.
Belonging to a website that does nothing but harm the game and its players and then claiming to love the game is beyond my comprehension.
Then there is the racism, antisemitism, etc;
His aw shucks attitude is an insult to my intelligence when it comes to this matter.
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« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2008, 09:39:58 AM »

Michigan Dale , Why post that about Cat i know him very well thats not nice[t]....
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« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2008, 09:42:08 AM »

Just because he is involved in amatuer racing does not make him an outstanding individual.
I look at more than an individuals hobbies when making a judgement on the kind of person they are.
Evidently his love for the game of harness racing does not run deep.
Belonging to a website that does nothing but harm the game and its players and then claiming to love the game is beyond my comprehension.
Then there is the racism, antisemitism, etc;
His aw shucks attitude is an insult to my intelligence when it comes to this matter.

Yesterday you argued this thread is all about what he said about BTW. This is about he doesn't fight your fights at slop. Please get back on topic.
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« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2008, 09:54:00 AM »

gee dale nice post on *** way to pat your self on the back ,i could give a rats ass as to where you post. but the problem i have is theres a topic right under yours that reads ''it hope cat manzi breaks a line and smashes into the tote board '' see thats the reason you will never see drivers like sears ,brennan ,campbell ,pierce ,tetrick ,miller ever post on that site because of trash like that .next time you see one of the guys in the paddock at the meds ask them if they ever post there let alone signed up there and they will laugh in your face .the point im trying to make dale is ,you being a driver yourself how can you support a place that wishes harm and death on fellow drivers and other people in the sport ? .but i guess you posting there is your 10 min of fame .
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« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2008, 10:13:47 AM »

Dale, just happily keep on posting on a site that makes its money by letting its members call people child molesters, saying that Jews should be murdered,etc. Then, continue to express your feelings of friendship toward the site's owners. It says a lot about your character. Hell, why not attend an Aryan Nation or KKK meeting? After all, you're not a member, you're just listening to the intertesting discussion, so it's OK.
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« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2008, 02:44:23 PM »

Dale, just happily keep on posting on a site that makes its money by letting its members call people child molesters, saying that Jews should be murdered,etc. Then, continue to express your feelings of friendship toward the site's owners. It says a lot about your character. Hell, why not attend an Aryan Nation or KKK meeting? After all, you're not a member, you're just listening to the intertesting discussion, so it's OK.

I have just now read the thread you are talking about over at HogSlop and while I'd rather the argument fade away I do need to point out..........if only for my own amusement...........the TOTALLY HYPOCRITICAL COMMENTS made by the forum adminstators! BSmeter BSmeter BSmeter

How could ANYONE in their right mind stand still for the smoke they try and blow up certain asses is beyond me. 

To leave the FILTH they leave posted IS TO CONDONE IT! Therefore in my book....they are JUST as filthy!

They are so phony, and SO completely hypocritical one can only stand back and laugh hysterically at their inhumanity.

Problem is and evident by all the fake names......very few are laughing any more. Undecided
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« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2008, 03:32:57 PM »

I was not going to reply to this utterly ridiculous thread, children.   However, when its apparent Mr. Burton cannot read or understand the English language it becomes necessary....then RTP asks a question implying I said BTW has only five members.   Read it, people read it.......and go to the source - the merry ringleader that began all the hoopla, Mr. NJ Horseman himself.   THAT is where the '5' came from, not me.   HE said I am on 'ignore' by 5 people at BTW.   Evidently he knows everything and those five must be sharing PM's all day long otherwise why make such a statement?   I'm more the man Burton will ever hope to be.   Damn, I said that?   The guy says on this forum not long ago he has me on 'ignore' but guess what?  NOT the case....evidently he can't get enough of me.   Too bad so sad.   I wish one of the sites ill will.   I really don't.   But I will say this, and it took me a loooooong time to understand it.   Burton is killing this site, taking it down.   Congratulations hotshot.   Now go ahead, folks continue the feeding frenzy that I likely am fueling here.   I should know better.   Online battles and wars of words cannot be won.  Its impossible.

Here's a final thought - why not try and get back to the basics of talking harness racing and not Michigan Dale, or HP, or ITS or Dan ***, or dictating who should post where and how they should think?   This site would be so much better.   I'm a peaceful guy that is not interested in picking fights or engaging in them.  I have only tried for severallyears to present positive, sometimes humorous posts regarding a sport I love and to be cordial about it.   Those who know me well know that's the case.   Others may not want to know or draw their own conclusions.   Its sad, very sad. 


     Dale ,      Your the one that cant read where in my post did I say anything about 5 members ?  Here's your words ( BTW used to be # 1 and has become pretty lame and controlled by a handful that are fouling up the works over there )   Then you mention your ignored by 5 members !   

       I didn't say anything 5 members you did !  A handful is five and I assume you mean't the 5 members that had you on ignore could be the controllers !  How would you know who has you on ignore not that you care right ? I simply asked who are the posters making the site pretty lame in your words and you twist my words for your own pleasure to exonerate your comment and refuse to tell us the lame posters by name !  A lot of bull !  You have explained your reasons for posting on *** numerous times and thats your choice . Again I could care less !  I do care when you post on another site about the posters on BTW and do not explain and name the posters your referring too ! Then to twist my words with that 5 poster remark that I didn't make saying you implied . You have posters you like on *** and I have posters I like on BTW and thats fine .  I would suggest that your next beef you get with a poster save your evaluations about the sites if your not going to mention names and facts. I guess one bad thread about you and the site is at a new low ( inthesulky ) I hardly think your that important or anyone else including myself to have one thread sink a site with some good posters !  I guess everyone on the site is to blame for the thread ?  Dale that must mean your to blame for the filthy posters on *** !  WRONG !  Children !  You should look in the mirror .

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« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2008, 03:55:35 PM »

RTP,

In the interest of accuracy, I see he is ignored by 7 members now.
Interesting.
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« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2008, 04:56:21 PM »

Dale, just happily keep on posting on a site that makes its money by letting its members call people child molesters, saying that Jews should be murdered,etc. Then, continue to express your feelings of friendship toward the site's owners. It says a lot about your character. Hell, why not attend an Aryan Nation or KKK meeting? After all, you're not a member, you're just listening to the intertesting discussion, so it's OK.
They are just as bad here but in other ways i am seeing.  trotter Some here have no room to talk. And i'm not talking about you YET .
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« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2008, 05:56:20 PM »

Dale has never been anything but a gentleman, in my opinion.  And, that is why I can't quite understand why everyone has been so hard on him.

I don't go to HP, so I'm not really sure of the discussion there.  And, I must admit that I'm kind of surprised that Dale continues to contribute at that hellhole.

More drama.  Bah.

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« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2008, 09:14:53 PM »

gee dale nice post on *** way to pat your self on the back ,i could give a rats ass as to where you post. but the problem i have is theres a topic right under yours that reads ''it hope cat manzi breaks a line and smashes into the tote board ''
Maybe Dale will break a line and smash into the tote board in his next billings race.   How's that Dale? feel at home now?
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« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2008, 08:37:24 AM »

I wonder what the Standardbred Driving Clubs think of a participant who is a member of a group that belittles, libels and threatens the very honest hardworking people who make a living at the sport?
If anyone would like to contact them, go to the USTA website and follow the links.
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« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2008, 10:14:36 AM »

Some of you sound like a bunch of little girls, If thats the way he feels so be it.. Shut up A team .. trotter
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« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2008, 12:11:16 PM »

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« Reply #46 on: March 09, 2008, 09:21:32 AM »

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« Reply #47 on: March 09, 2008, 08:48:19 PM »

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« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2017, 05:20:07 PM »

Gov. Rick Snyder makes appointment to the Michigan Gaming Control Board

 
Lansing, Mich., March 17, 2017 - Gov. Rick Snyder today announced the appointment of Dale Zahn of Holland to the Michigan Gaming Control Board.                   

The five-member board oversees licensing and regulations for commercial casinos in Detroit. No more than three members can be from the same political party.

"I thank Dale for his service and I believe his background in real estate will be an asset to this board,” Snyder said.

Zahn is the chief executive officer of the West Michigan Lakeshore Association of Realtors. He is a member of the American Society of Association Executives and the National Association of Realtors. Zahn holds an associate’s degree in general studies from Prairie State College, a bachelor’s degree in speech and theater from St. Joseph’s Calumet College, and a certificate from the non-profit management program at Duke University. He will represent Republicans and replace Michael Watza.

Zahn will serve a four-year term expiring Dec. 31, 2020

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