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« on: January 24, 2006, 01:25:52 AM »

How about the time at Hawthorne when Jacob had broken EQ on CHarge Plate in the first turn and Larson who was on Spensive reached back and  grabbed hold of Charge Plate as Randy climbed on the horses back...It was one of the craziest things that i've seen happen during a race...this was a nice money race and Larson gave up his chances to save Jacobs ass....It seemed that this was the time of the start of the fall of Doug Larson....Why he gave up babies and took all claimers for the LeVins I will never know...He sure knew how to get a baby ready to roll
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2006, 01:41:51 AM »

I remember that well and thats the kind of guy doug  larson was......Plus he left on his own to make big bucks with a tech company, no one took any horses from him, he walked away.....I guess he helped Jacobs to thank him for rip van rocky....
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2006, 01:50:59 AM »

Doug Larsen was truuly a clas act I remembr he gav me the fist horse I Owd called Lively expres Doug if you out there good luck in all your futer endevners
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2006, 02:01:04 AM »

A few years back Balmoral ran a gimmick to show free wrestlemania on a Sunday evening, why I don't know. We got there at 5pm to watch the workouts and the place was packed with every hippy, drunk, and moron in the midwest. Every seat was occupied and they were throwing whiskey bottles at everything that moved. By time wrestlemania started the place was up for grabs and half the seats were torn off. The fastest times of the night were the patrons and security guards running to the parking lot.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2006, 02:26:47 AM »

Speaking of crazy incidents from the past remmber when we had good announcers at Balmaral, maywood?
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2006, 06:41:17 AM »

A few years back Balmoral ran a gimmick to show free wrestlemania on a Sunday evening, why I don't know. We got there at 5pm to watch the workouts and the place was packed with every hippy, drunk, and moron in the midwest. Every seat was  packed

harry...it seems that every where you go seems to have every drunk hippy and moron are you just unlucky or do you just pesonify the 'sh!t draws flies' theory?
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2006, 10:59:52 AM »

Speaking of crazy incidents from the past remmber when we had good announcers at Balmaral, maywood?
yea, anyone before or after ear ache.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2006, 11:07:34 AM »

Remember when everyone over the age of 10 could spell. And had an IQ of  at least 80.  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2006, 01:43:51 PM »

When I was dating this girl in Birmingham, she always asked me "why do you pour over those useless stats in the program?" I said honey, its to your benefit to know the class droppers, who the good drivers are on, etc... She said alls I have to do is look at horses to pick winners. So we came back to Chicago to visit and went to Balmoral for a night. First race, she bets an 8-9-10 exacta box. I said wait a minute, your throwing 12 bucks away. They were all over 20-1. I went on about 10 minutes why they would all finish up the track. I told her if it comes in, I would do all the housework for a whole month. I.....don't have to finish this story do I?
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2006, 02:23:56 PM »

Back in the day at QCD:

The first time around, near the quarter pole (it was a 5/8ths for those who don't know) there's a wreck near the rear of the field, and two horses go down.  It's a fairly rough one, and so the ambulance comes out onto the racetrack.

As the field nears the head of the stretch the final time, everyone bears out to get around the ambulance, outrider, two horses being held down, and two drivers (may have been Simmons and RV, but my memory is misfiring).

Now, sitting in 5th or 6th on the rail is a very young driver (I don't remember the name -- help!), and he sees the GOLDEN RAIL opening up as every horse bears out...so he gives his horse a good shot, and fires right up the rail...now, on about the third or fourth whip, he finally looked up, and sees all the stuff sitting on the racetrack.......and yanks the living crap out of the right line, but not before clipping the outrider, and running RIGHT INTO THE AMBULANCE.

Now, this is all hilarious in hindsight, because everyone turned out to be fine.  But, I'll say -- that for the rest of his driving career -- whenever the rail opened up...he looked first!

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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2006, 02:54:55 PM »

here is a sad, but true story on one of my many fair trips.. i was in napolean one hot sunday afternoon and after a man crossed the track to get to the winners circle which was in the infield he stayed to chat for just a minute then turned to re cross the track back to his seat took 2 steps back onto the track and got hit by a horse warming up for a later race... the man died on the spot...my worst day at the track ever...
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2006, 03:07:54 PM »

At Maywood years ago, a burly, youthful guy had either a seizure or an adverse reaction to drugs and alcohol.  He was outside when he got "stuck" like Howard Hughes in 'The Aviator'.  He started flailing his arms like a drum major and repeating "SPIELBERG, SPIELBERG" over and over again.  He couldn't be restrained by his friends, nor could he be by about 8 guys.  Eventually, he was tackled to the ground, where he continued to flail away while on his back (like an overturned turtle) until medical help arrived.  They strapped him tightly onto the gurney and after a good 20 minutes of this, finally started to wear out.  As he was being wheeled away, he still was muttering "SPIELBERG, SPIELBERG", albeit at a slower and softer cadence.  Talk about suffering the aftereffects of a bad beat !   trotter  TC
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2006, 03:17:08 PM »

Edward,

   That was my horse lying on the track. Active Time Mark was knocked down and he landed in a heap.  Everyone noticed except for Drew Johnson.  I used to have it on tape.
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2006, 03:17:22 PM »

When I was younger, my dad loved this horse called Raeda (I think it was a Jon Anderson horse) anyway, he bet 20 WP on him and he was about 15-1. Keep in mind this was the old Balmoral 5/8ths. So he darts out for the lead and is immediately up by 10. So he's up 10 the whole way, and it was becoming obvious that he wasnt going to lose. So just past 3 quarters, we are counting our money, and instead of taking the turn home, this horse just goes full speed straight right into the paddock and barns. Never seen anything like it.
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2006, 03:29:14 PM »

Edward,

  It was only one driver down, Mike Perrin.  The driver that caused it never went down.  He took the front legs of my horse with his wheel.
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2006, 03:40:18 PM »

Back in the day at QCD:

The first time around, near the quarter pole (it was a 5/8ths for those who don't know) there's a wreck near the rear of the field, and two horses go down.  It's a fairly rough one, and so the ambulance comes out onto the racetrack.

As the field nears the head of the stretch the final time, everyone bears out to get around the ambulance, outrider, two horses being held down, and two drivers (may have been Simmons and RV, but my memory is misfiring).

Now, sitting in 5th or 6th on the rail is a very young driver (I don't remember the name -- help!), and he sees the GOLDEN RAIL opening up as every horse bears out...so he gives his horse a good shot, and fires right up the rail...now, on about the third or fourth whip, he finally looked up, and sees all the stuff sitting on the racetrack.......and yanks the living crap out of the right line, but not before clipping the outrider, and running RIGHT INTO THE AMBULANCE.

Now, this is all hilarious in hindsight, because everyone turned out to be fine.  But, I'll say -- that for the rest of his driving career -- whenever the rail opened up...he looked first!
                Mike Perrin and Vince Affrunti were the drivers knocked down. That was also the new outriders , I believe second day on the job.
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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2006, 03:41:04 PM »

Edward,

  It was only one driver down, Mike Perrin.  The driver that caused it never went down.  He took the front legs of my horse with his wheel.

Ah!  I'm getting my accidents mixed up -- haha.  But, yes, Drew Johnson.

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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2006, 04:04:13 PM »

My buddy and I were taking a long drive out to Balmoral back in the 80s. All of a sudden we see a shooting star, being from the city, neither one of us had ever seen one. Right then and there we say, lets bet any horse whose name has something to do with shooting stars. Sure enough, a horse has shooting star in his name. After the excitement of seeing a shooting star had worn off, we decide betting names is stupid and the shooting star horse is a rat and can't win. Sure enough, the rat wins the race at a nice price. Of all the times I got off a winner, that one stands out the most.
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2006, 04:08:03 PM »

Another crazy incident. A gun goes off at SPK and people are spilling out of the grandstand and running out onto the track. I saw Vince Tamburello die at Maywood(a sad night) and I was also there for the Doug Larsen incident(I seemed to remember it was Larson jumping on the horses back and not Jacobs)
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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2006, 04:14:43 PM »

  I remember the gun incident at SPK very well as I was sitting in the section where it happened. The guy actually pulled a Screwdriver out of his pocket and someone yelled, "hes gotta gun". The race just ended. The Grumbler won.
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2006, 04:38:06 PM »

does anyone remember the horse at maywood going straight thru the fence at the start of the race...that was pretty scarry and also one time a horse from the outside 7-8 post at maywood passed the starting gate at the start..
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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2006, 06:14:12 PM »

does anyone remember the horse at maywood going straight thru the fence at the start of the race...that was pretty scarry and also one time a horse from the outside 7-8 post at maywood passed the starting gate at the start..
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That was the race that Fredricton N and Judge for Yourself both died in the same race.  Not good.
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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2006, 06:26:19 PM »

I remember the Charge Plate incident well!My worst moment well their are two my favorite horse that a friend owned named BJ"S Chance with MArc Aubin was in an accident at the old SPK and had to be put down that night!My true horror story was with a horse I bought as a yearling..She was an Incredible Finale out of an Ideal Society mare.I did not race her till she was three.She won her qualifier at Balmoral Park.Her first race a horse broke in front of her causing her to jump.She broke stride recovered and took the lead in the stretch but started to drift wide and finished sixth or seventh.I found out the next day she broke a bone.I let her heal and she did  possibly to breed  and she later died of EPM!She would have been a good one I am sure of that! Angry      flag
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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2006, 01:53:21 AM »

I seem to recall a incident involving Queen Bea Farber at SPK in the stretch when her race bike broke down leaving Bea sitting on the race bike seat next to the ground  and she was still on the seat driving when crossing the finish line. I think it made the news.
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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2006, 02:07:17 AM »

I seem to recall a incident involving Queen Bea Farber at SPK in the stretch when her race bike broke down leaving Bea sitting on the race bike seat next to the ground  and she was still on the seat driving when crossing the finish line. I think it made the news.

she did a good job that night
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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2006, 02:59:58 AM »

One Saturday evening while pulling in the Balmoral parking lot, this big red headed bearded muscular guy who used to park cars, got his foot ran over by some guy. He was hopping around and cursing the guy big time. When we got inside and started looking at the program, my friend pointed out to me a horse running in the third race named Hoppin Red who was no. 4 and 10-1 in the morning line. When post time came he was 16- 1 and my friend ran to the $10 window to bet him. He was so excited that destiny called, he bet the five horse instead of the four horse. When he noticed the mistake he became pale and was cursing himself. The race started and of course Hoppin Red took the lead. He was so sure he was going to win he threw his ticket on the ground and went back inside. For some reason I picked up the ticket just in case. Lo and behold here comes Tom Tetrick on the 5 horse at 22-1 and nips Hoppin Red by a head at the wire. My friend comes running out and starts crawling on the ground like a starved blood hound looking for his ticket. After a couple of minutes I gave him the winning ticket and asked him if he learned anything. He replied, next time I'll bet to place too.
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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2006, 08:34:38 AM »

My favorite track was the now defunct AURORA DOWNS. This quaint half miler was built in 1946 and raced from then through 1952. It was closed from 1952 until 1967 when it re-opened for winter racing only. That's when I started going.

It had a long stretch for a half with hairpin turns. The start/finish line was in deep stretch leaving little room for outside horses to gain position before the first bend  So, the inside posts, especially the rail, were golden.  Maywood has an outside bias compared to old Aurora.

Some horses were "locks" if they drew the fence. Georgia Boy (Harold Guerra) and Bold Over (Bobby Burnett) come immediately to mind.  Those two horses must have won a dozen times carrying the red saddlecloth wire to wire between 2:08 and 2:14 depending on temperature and track condition

Often I'd be the only person watching the races outside in below zero weather as the other 300 patrons were basking in 72 degree comfort inside.

Two of my more vivid memories were cashing an 8-7-6 straight trifecta keyed by the amazingly consistent claimer Sunview. And having a horse, sulky and driver crash through the outside fence in the stretch landing in a heap less then 10 feet away from me.

The frightened horse was thrashing around on the track apron, pinned between the fence and the track and all tangled up in his equipment and sulky. The driver (Igino Lancione) was unhurt but very shaken (naturally).

Being the first person on the scene, I pulled the base of the chain link fence up and away from the horse as much as I could. The driver and a few other people were able to drag him out from under the fence.

The horse was pretty scraped up but walked off with no signs of serious injury.

If you go to enough racetracks enough times, you'll see just about everything.
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« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2006, 04:00:08 AM »

One Sunday afternoon at Balmoral my buddy Vern and I stopped on the bottom floor to get a couple of beers. The beer guy asked Vern if he had any hot ones for today. Vern told him he got a tip that a horse named James Senator couldn't lose the fifth race today. I asked Vern why he told him that knowing that the horse was a three legged rat. He said he's got such a big mouth that he'll tell everyone and that he'll get a better price on the horse he liked. To my amazement James Senator who was 15-1 in the program was bet down to 5-1. He was 24-1 last time against the same field. James Senator won for fun and paid a whopping $12. Vern became very ill.
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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2006, 01:29:25 AM »

My buddy Vern, his brother Boyd and I went to Maywood one Friday. Boyd went to the track twice a year and his wife would only give him $10 to bet with. On the way in, he picked up a newspaper from the ground and commented that he won't have to bother us for our programs now. After the sixth race he said he was up over $100 and had 4 out 6 winners. I asked him what he was doing and he said he was picking the top number from the paper. I took the paper to see what was on top for the seventh and noticed he was looking at Spotsman's Park entries for Friday afternoon. The cheap SOB ended up with one more winner.
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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2006, 04:57:52 PM »

one of the last times i warmed up my horse at maywood a guy by fence yelled i was a child molester.i told him to come by fence after and say it to my face once more.he did oops bad idea.he had to cry out for sucuite because of a nice boot mark on his chin.too many bad ones at the races and y'all wonder why my kids arnt alloud to go to races.let the reel inbreds bring their boys and girls to see the dirty people in stands cusing not me.i hear tony say once that if he get that crazy guy by fence hell go to prison.truth
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« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2006, 06:42:09 PM »

One warm rainy night at Wolverine, there was a skunk that wandered out for a stroll in the middle of the home stretch. He was lazily wandering to and fro, and the look on his face as ten pacers came thundering toward him must have been priceless. He scooted toward teh infield, barely escaping the 1, and was never seen again.

This must have been an omen, because I had a $5 win ticket on a 48-1 shot that came in.  Shocked
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« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2006, 06:44:52 PM »

One warm rainy night at Wolverine, there was a skunk that wandered out for a stroll in the middle of the home stretch. He was lazily wandering to and fro, and the look on his face as ten pacers came thundering toward him must have been priceless. He scooted toward teh infield, barely escaping the 1, and was never seen again.

This must have been an omen, because I had a $5 win ticket on a 48-1 shot that came in.  Shocked

dude.. if that only happened 1 time... i was there!!! thanx for the memory..wonder if that skunk was john frank...Huh
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« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2006, 06:48:23 PM »

I want to say this was the early 80's. Can't remember the horse, but it was definitely my salad days, and the cash was handy!

My friend who had a "system" also won on a $40 win ticket that night at 7-2, so we both left Wolverine happy (at least once!)...
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« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2006, 06:53:21 PM »

as i've said in other threads..what a place..what good harness racing.. not like some of the rats mich has today
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