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« Reply #150 on: April 13, 2009, 11:01:43 AM »

Hate to offer a "I knew EV as well" response like RTP but actually, I did get that one.   I have a memory like an elephant and I can tell you why I remember him.   The one and only time I ever jogged a horse at Washington Park, (it was one of Harry Sprunger's "Snow" horses) I was returning to the barns and saw another horsemen and I asked, "Who is that?"   The answer, "That's Mr. Everett Jefferson!"   True tale.  I remember him lighting up the tote board one night on a horse I believe was named Lincoln Something.....

Now, for those that have REALLY great memories of the past and obscure drivers from the same era....can you put a name with these long lost persons?   Don't know if they raced at Balmoral but they DID race at Balmoral Park....the initials are:
                     AW
                                     LW
                                                          WL
                                                          MS
The first two, with the same last initial, are not/were not related.
The last one, did race at Sportsmans and had trained the winner of one of the Orange and Blue's.

Have fun boys and girls, have fun. 


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« Reply #151 on: April 13, 2009, 11:08:12 AM »

Hate to offer a "I knew EV as well" response like RTP but actually, I did get that one.   I have a memory like an elephant and I can tell you why I remember him.   The one and only time I ever jogged a horse at Washington Park, (it was one of Harry Sprunger's "Snow" horses) I was returning to the barns and saw another horsemen and I asked, "Who is that?"   The answer, "That's Mr. Everett Jefferson!"   True tale.  I remember him lighting up the tote board one night on a horse I believe was named Lincoln Something.....

Now, for those that have REALLY great memories of the past and obscure drivers from the same era....can you put a name with these long lost persons?   Don't know if they raced at Balmoral but they DID race at Balmoral Park....the initials are:
                     AW
                                     LW
                                                          WL
                                                          MS
The first two, with the same last initial, are not/were not related.
The last one, did race at Sportsmans and had trained the winner of one of the Orange and Blue's.

Have fun boys and girls, have fun. 



i belive the mare was lincolns valentine
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« Reply #152 on: April 13, 2009, 05:31:00 PM »

i was curious if anybody remembers DEL ROSEBOOM?  i could not tell you what years he drove, but i know he drove at maywood. can anybody help me out on this one?
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« Reply #153 on: April 13, 2009, 05:53:10 PM »

i was curious if anybody remembers DEL ROSEBOOM?  i could not tell you what years he drove, but i know he drove at maywood. can anybody help me out on this one?

Here's his 2003 obit (no longer active) from the USTA Newsroom:

DelMichael Roseboom, 35, dies
      
      March 27, 2003

DelMichael W. Roseboom, 35, of Aledo, Ill., a son of trainer Bill Roseboom, died on Saturday, March 1, 2003 as the result injuries sustained in an automobile accident which occurred west of Aledo.

Roseboom was born on July 17, 1967, in Chicago, and was the son of William F. and Dorothy M. (Peterson) Roseboom, and he married the former Patricia Fuller on August 17, 1991 at St. Catherine’s Church in Aledo and she preceded him in death on April 13, 2001.

Roseboom is survived by his father, of Mt. Vernon, Ill.; his mother, of Aledo; a sister, Gwendolyn Youmans of Rosamond, Calif.; two half-sisters, Lisa Gibson of Blue Island, Ill. and Christine Bowers of Clifton, Ill.; and his paternal grandmother, Edna Bigham Ruggles, Ill.

Roseboom was employed as a supervisor of roads and grounds for Rock Island Integrated Services at the Rock Island Arsenal. He was a veteran of the U.S. Air Force. He was a member of the United Methodist Church. He graduated in 1985 from Aledo High School and he attended Blackhawk College.
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 The father William, from Aug 1975 Hoof Beats and Fair Affairs:
The track at Griggsville, Ill., was in excellent shape and must have suited Bill Roseboom who won the two-year-old pacing stake with Pappy Kingston and came back to take the three-year-old trot with Victory Darnley. A beef fondue spread for all the horsemen was a Griggsville highlight for many. .
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« Reply #154 on: April 13, 2009, 09:52:03 PM »

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« Reply #155 on: April 14, 2009, 06:35:23 AM »

My turn to jump in.

A driver from Ohio, Freddy Rathgaber (spel) anyone help me here?

He had a few good horses and came to SPK in the summers.

One of my long shots Hoots Fury came in one day for me. heart
It was Freddy's horse I will never forget it.

I think this has been the "big hook" for me.

Thanks ahead of time.


Kenneth
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« Reply #156 on: April 14, 2009, 07:31:11 AM »

oops

 oops?
Like in I have the wrong gent (entirely possible)?

 Or oops you made an error and "edited" it out?
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« Reply #157 on: April 14, 2009, 07:35:12 AM »

nothing in my data on "Rathgaber".

 A search on "Rath" provided 3,400 results, which is far too many to sift through.

Nothing in my data under "Hoots Fury".

 Course none of this means the data doesn't exist. Simply that I don't have it digitized.
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« Reply #158 on: April 14, 2009, 07:48:58 AM »

nothing in my data on "Rathgaber".

 A search on "Rath" provided 3,400 results, which is far too many to sift through.

Nothing in my data under "Hoots Fury".

 Course none of this means the data doesn't exist. Simply that I don't have it digitized.


Maybe I got "hooked" at Arlington  horse Park  geezer


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« Reply #159 on: April 14, 2009, 09:58:25 AM »

Just back from the Christmas Parade, too cold and windy for this old man. Looked at a few old programs from Chicago racetracks, covering the early-70's thru mid-80's, and thought you old-timers who have followed Chicago racing for years might be familiar with the drivers colony during that period. Only problem is that it's too easy just to list them, no challenge in that, so I've given you their initials, you give me their name. Now, some drivers have the same initials. The list contains no duplicates thus it may require two or more different answers to the same initials. How many drivers in the Chicago area, for that period, can you recall ?

   1)   D.B.
   2)   R.M.
   3)   R.M. Jr.
   4)   C.P.
   5)   S.C.
   6)   W.P.
   7)   J.C.
   8)   G.M.
   9)   D.M.
 10)   D.M.
 11)   D.K.
 12)   G.L.
 13)   H.P.
 14)   J.D.
 15)   L.S.
 16)   B.N.
 17)   P.M.
 18)   J.D.
 19)   N.W.
 20)   D.B.
 21)   S.B.
 22)   K.H.
 23)   D.S.
 24)   D.S. Jr.
 25)   C.Mc.
 26)   J.G.
 27)   A.T.
 28)   A.G.S.
 29)   G.K.
 30)   J.W.
 31)   H.G.
 32)   R.F.
 33)   D.P.
 34)   G.R.
 35)   A.P.
 36)   R.W.
 37)   D.P.
 38)   W.M.
 39)   L.L.
 40)   C.W.
 41)   H.K.
 42)   E.C.
 43)   D.B.
 44)   R.K.
 45)   I.S.
 46)   B.R.
 47)   F.V.
 48)   J.M.
 49)   J.N.
 50)   E.J.
 51)   N.C.
 52)   M.C.
 53)   D.H.
 54)   R.F.
 55)   Y.D.
 56)   D.I.
 57)   H.B.
 58)   A.R.
 59)   T.R.
 60)   J.H.
 61)   G.H.
 62)   J.E.
 63)   G.P.
 64)   B.F.
 65)   O.F.

These drivers range from Hall of Famers to the most difficult. Good luck to all who care to participate.
30 Wondergem
1 Don Busse
14 Dakuras
22 TANK
26 Jacques
45 Ike
31 The Magician
44 BOB KNOX
49 Northrup
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« Reply #160 on: April 14, 2009, 04:11:22 PM »

My turn to jump in.

A driver from Ohio, Freddy Rathgaber (spel) anyone help me here?

He had a few good horses and came to SPK in the summers.

One of my long shots Hoots Fury came in one day for me. heart
It was Freddy's horse I will never forget it.

I think this has been the "big hook" for me.

Thanks ahead of time.


Kenneth


He was Fred Rathgeber.
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« Reply #161 on: April 14, 2009, 05:47:04 PM »

He was Fred Rathgeber.

Fred Rathgeber
Greenfield, IL.
03/03/1944
60 wins lifetime
$203,805 lifetime
last drive  Haw. 02/11/1983
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As my Friend from Maine(Ora Stratton) says "There are horse trainers, and then there are real "Hoss" trainers.
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« Reply #162 on: April 14, 2009, 05:52:42 PM »

have have-a-dozen mentions of Wilbur Rathgeber from 1956-1960, however nothing more than a mention.

 Two mentions of a Terry Rathgeber in recent years Harness Racing Communications releases.
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« Reply #163 on: April 14, 2009, 05:56:41 PM »

Hoots Fury
Foaled  1965
Pacer, 4, 2:06 1/5  on a half  $17,859
Last raced 04/05/1974
Bred by  B Franklyn Long of Rushville, IL.
Later owned by Jack Franklyn Long of Rushville, IL.
Last owned by Larry Ryan Macomb, IL.
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As my Friend from Maine(Ora Stratton) says "There are horse trainers, and then there are real "Hoss" trainers.
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« Reply #164 on: April 15, 2009, 04:32:59 AM »


        Fred Rathgeber -  John Searle -  William Lonaker

        This reminded me a black mark against racing years ago !

        They were all in a race they were in where Harold Guerra driving a horse named Bethals Lizzie from the 8 hole at Maywood Park dead heated with the favorite John Searle was driving !!  The bad part was Bethals Lizzie was 30-1 and the exacta came back about 60 bucks with Guerra on top and with Searle it paid roughly 160 .  There was an immediate investigation and the three above were suspended !!  I forgot for how long , but at least a year or two . The Dead heat proved to be their downfall because it would have paid 120 if Guerra won and the drastic difference with the favorite payoff would have never been exposed to the public .

                                               RTP
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« Reply #165 on: April 15, 2009, 06:07:20 AM »

I never knew about this.

The only story I knew about was the one with Brian Pelling at Maywood.

I was at the track when the Brian Pelling incident took place.


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« Reply #166 on: April 15, 2009, 03:25:53 PM »

uh,   my bad!  it is bill roseboom. his son was indeed killed in a car wreck.  i have met bill a couple times and since then, i have heard he use to drive in chi town. was just curious.  thanks anyway wilderness.
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« Reply #167 on: April 15, 2009, 03:42:08 PM »

        Fred Rathgeber -  John Searle -  William Lonaker

        This reminded me a black mark against racing years ago !

        They were all in a race they were in where Harold Guerra driving a horse named Bethals Lizzie from the 8 hole at Maywood Park dead heated with the favorite John Searle was driving !!  The bad part was Bethals Lizzie was 30-1 and the exacta came back about 60 bucks with Guerra on top and with Searle it paid roughly 160 .  There was an immediate investigation and the three above were suspended !!  I forgot for how long , but at least a year or two . The Dead heat proved to be their downfall because it would have paid 120 if Guerra won and the drastic difference with the favorite payoff would have never been exposed to the public .

                                               RTP

My good man (RTP) you have one hellish good memory.
Bethals Lizzie was bred and owned by Harold Guerra.
She was foaled in 1968 and raced in 1971,72,73, and 74.
Man that was 35-37 years ago.
Way to go Sharpe. thumbs up
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I am just an old "Hoss" trainer, that has been raced hard and put away wet. 
As my Friend from Maine(Ora Stratton) says "There are horse trainers, and then there are real "Hoss" trainers.
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« Reply #168 on: April 15, 2009, 04:26:16 PM »


     Lookin In ,

                     Thanks for the compliment , but my memory is about 25 % of it use to be and it really irritates me ,I use to be able to glance at a program and tell you in order every horse racing and the trainer and driver !!   I remember the past pretty well , but the present is real shaky . I guess to many races and too many Crown Royals through the years that have went by rapidly .

        Your awful sharp too !! 

                                                  RTP

                                               
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« Reply #169 on: April 16, 2009, 02:48:10 PM »

Lets ee how about Eddie Lutes, Elaine Neary, Sterling Buch, Johnny Blevins, A George Shaw, Jim and Don Perrin, Don Freese Tommy Ryan, Honor Dunkentell, Jerald Grevengoed, Karlo Jensen, Ben Bolon, Terry Thomas, Garland Ruggles Just to add to the list
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« Reply #170 on: April 16, 2009, 04:17:02 PM »

ALSO TERRY TOWNE AND JIM WONDERGEM
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« Reply #171 on: April 16, 2009, 06:01:51 PM »

ALSO TERRY TOWNE AND JIM WONDERGEM
Can you tell the story of the untimely demise of these two gentlemen.
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As my Friend from Maine(Ora Stratton) says "There are horse trainers, and then there are real "Hoss" trainers.
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« Reply #172 on: April 16, 2009, 06:27:33 PM »

Can you tell the story of the untimely demise of these two gentlemen.
i belive both were killed in automobile accidents towne was on his way to chicago i was in the paddock at quad city downs when we were told about wondergems death
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« Reply #173 on: April 16, 2009, 07:19:44 PM »

i believe both were killed in automobile accidents towne was on his way to chicago i was in the paddock at quad city downs when we were told about wondergems death
I agree about Terry Towne, but I think a made for TV movie could be made of Wonderjems death, or at least "48 Hours" episode.
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As my Friend from Maine(Ora Stratton) says "There are horse trainers, and then there are real "Hoss" trainers.
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« Reply #174 on: April 16, 2009, 09:26:47 PM »

Now,now, that's just speculation.......................................
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