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« on: October 10, 2007, 12:57:41 PM »

My husband and I were watching the Keeneland Sim. today and we were wondering when will more tracks start using RACE TRAX or other GPS technology?   It sure makes observing the race more interesting/fun.
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2007, 01:29:05 PM »

only two tracks that i know of have it in place, keeneland and del mar, and at del mar they didn't even use all the little chicklet options, but left them in a single line running order as opposed to seeing them run in the paths. you may see them in special races like the derby or even the BC races this year, but in general only keeneland a a few california tracks have it.
it is a remarkable invention and provides handicapping data with a precision never known before, instead of leengths behind , you can actually measure feet traveled.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2007, 01:43:26 PM »

Seen Keeneland using this and it is very interesting technology!!
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2007, 01:52:43 PM »

Last year, there was talk of using this technology to record accurate workout info. Anybody know if Keeneland or Del Mar is using this for workouts?

Ed
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2007, 01:57:50 PM »

The company selling the GPS devices for horses will know, Ed.

www.trackus.com
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2007, 02:27:25 PM »

only two tracks that i know of have it in place, keeneland and del mar, and at del mar they didn't even use all the little chicklet options, but left them in a single line running order as opposed to seeing them run in the paths. you may see them in special races like the derby or even the BC races this year, but in general only keeneland a a few california tracks have it.
it is a remarkable invention and provides handicapping data with a precision never known before, instead of leengths behind , you can actually measure feet traveled.

Woodbine has Trackus also.  In fact, that is the first track that I noticed it used.  They ran the little numbers around a simulated track right below the actual race on the screen.  At Keeneland, don't they just line up the numbers in a row and they change positions as the race goes on.  Sure is better than the humans pushing numbers for what they think are the top four horses throughout the race.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2007, 02:53:57 PM »

I love the way the little "chicklets" move in the Woodbine races.  Instead of the straight line you can see where every  horse is at all times.  And you know exactly where your horse is. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2007, 02:56:53 PM »

Gum, anyone?
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2007, 03:09:25 PM »

For live racing, I prefer a good pair of binoculars to the chiclets.
For simulcasts a good announcer will do.
But if some people like it, who am I to call it stupid?
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2007, 03:56:01 PM »

Had a very nice pair of Leica's stolen from me. Still haven't got over it.

Wish I could get to the track, but it won't be happening. Freaking winter is here. Brr.
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2007, 04:20:56 PM »

I agree...it saves time when you see a horse movement
within a race you like and then with tracking device you
can pick out number quickly...are all the saddle towels white
at keeneland?
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2007, 05:35:25 PM »

No, the saddle cloths for regulara races are the standard colors.
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2007, 07:39:24 PM »

For live racing, I prefer a good pair of binoculars to the chiclets.
For simulcasts a good announcer will do.
But if some people like it, who am I to call it stupid?

I agree with you BUT when you only have an OTB to go bet them, those chicklets are great.

According to who is doing the job at the OTB, you may or may not  (at ours, it's many cases NOT)  get the sound turned up during the race.  So, no calls can be heard.
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2007, 11:35:28 PM »

It's most productive use isn't for watching a race, it's for precise timing and beaten length measurements.
Also, ground loss during a race.
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2007, 11:42:30 PM »

Of course!

But we bettors get a good thing from those chicklets too.  Sheesh!
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2007, 11:46:24 PM »

I agree with you BUT when you only have an OTB to go bet them, those chicklets are great.

According to who is doing the job at the OTB, you may or may not  (at ours, it's many cases NOT)  get the sound turned up during the race.  So, no calls can be heard.

Your OTB? I have a feeling it very, as Mao Tse Tung say, inferior.

I phone War-Mart ask if they serr crows made China, they ask me, "who cawrring?"
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2007, 11:52:30 PM »

ED!   Please explain.
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2007, 12:31:44 AM »

Anyone who says the "chicklets" are not good for the sport is an IDIOT!!

One half of the time with the "human" element - they have the wrong horses in the wrong positions. I think it's great and ALL tracks should pony up the small bucks to get it.
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2007, 09:01:24 AM »

From what I understand Beau, it's not "small amount" to get Trackus installed, but yes everyone should go through it.  I won't go as far as you to call those who don't like it IDIOTs as I realize this sport is very much "to each his own" - for example, I find the moving Trackus display distracting at Woodbine but like the complete running order version used to Del Mar - I've been under the weather and haven't seen Keenelan's yet to have an opinion.

To me, I'd like to see the running order version on the live race and the "Woodbine moving" version on the replay.

Just one man's opinion,
TJG
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