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« Reply #125 on: September 20, 2007, 06:35:54 PM »

The richest guy i know on this board is Edwarren. Ever hear of Drivematics?

http://www.drivematics.com/

He's not just rich, he's wealthy.

And he MAY have super-powers.

But, he is mild mannered about the whole deal.
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« Reply #126 on: September 20, 2007, 06:37:51 PM »

Gee, sure glad this thread is about the 2008 IL Racing Dates.   hijack

Arrrr! Blast!  Two days too late! 

Hahahaha! You think we could go on for 9 pages about Hawthorne getting 4 less days and not getting more dark days??
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« Reply #127 on: September 20, 2007, 06:44:36 PM »

Well if you think $800 for a box seat is rich, that makes great news! You all don't have to far to go!

$800 isn't alot of money, true. Those that can spare it for a place to park their butt AT A RACETRACK sure ain't hurting for money, though -- to me, it's a sure sign of affluence and wealth. Maybe you'll tell us how many grocery coupons you are clipping all year long to scrimp and save for your annual box seat at AP. See if we believe you.

One more thing, if you are on this board talking about the horses you are playing, the poor can't afford to even do that! So tell me, who the hell are you kidding?

I never claimed that I'm not rich. I've done very well for myself and consider myself to be quite rich -- not "box seats at AP and owner of horses" rich, mind you, but rich nonetheless.

You said YOU are not rich. Like I said, who do you think you are you kidding?
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« Reply #128 on: September 20, 2007, 06:55:05 PM »

$800 isn't alot of money, true. Those that can spare it for a place to park their butt AT A RACETRACK sure ain't hurting for money, though -- to me, it's a sure sign of affluence and wealth. Maybe you'll tell us how many grocery coupons you are clipping all year long to scrimp and save for your annual box seat at AP. See if we believe you.

I never claimed that I'm not rich. I've done very well for myself and consider myself to be quite rich -- not "box seats at AP and owner of horses" rich, mind you, but rich nonetheless.

You said YOU are not rich. Like I said, who do you think you are you kidding?

I gotta laugh out loud! Ok, I'm filthy rich! That's why, yes indeed my wife uses coupons at the grocery store! I also drive a 10 year old car which can be verified any day at the track when I'm there. I will tell you what, I won't give up that box for nothing.
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« Reply #129 on: September 20, 2007, 06:57:52 PM »

I'm with ya, Mel. You don't have to be rich to afford what you really want to do. You just have to give up other things. I'm certainly not rich, but I have season tickets to a couple of things, both of which cost more than $800/year.

/I'd never spend that kind of money at the track, especially since you can get in for free, but I understand the theory of it.

/I spend almost $2000/year on my health club.
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« Reply #130 on: September 20, 2007, 08:01:31 PM »

I'm with ya, Mel. You don't have to be rich to afford what you really want to do. You just have to give up other things. I'm certainly not rich, but I have season tickets to a couple of things, both of which cost more than $800/year.

/I'd never spend that kind of money at the track, especially since you can get in for free, but I understand the theory of it.

/I spend almost $2000/year on my health club.

Moon,

I know all is not lost, you have restored my faith in people! Thank you for believing me!
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« Reply #131 on: September 20, 2007, 09:39:56 PM »

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« Reply #132 on: September 20, 2007, 09:42:42 PM »

Sorry, Mel. The answer is YES -- if you have $800 apiece to piss away on BOX SEATS AT A RACETRACK -- you fit the general definition of what the average working stiff considers "rich".

Have to disagree with you, HV.

My 1/8 share of White Sox season tickets comes out to a little over $900, and I'm hardly what anyone would call rich. Well, except for John Frank.  Roll Eyes It's just one entertainment expense I choose, while not choosing others. 
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« Reply #133 on: September 21, 2007, 10:35:26 PM »

Here are 22 people we need to deport... How dare they have so much $$$$$$$
 
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9. David Koch
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12. S. Robson Walton
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16. Steven Ballmer
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18. Carl Icahn
19. Jack Crawford Taylor & Family
19. Forrest Mars Jr.
19. John F. Mars
19. Jacqueline Mars 




...and the horse they rode in on.


anyone here culd get along without most of them.

Probably without all of em.

I mean, if any one of them say, fell overboard, for example, and I'm NOT suggesting anything, would any of you here be overcome with grief over the anguish you'll be facing.

Captain, I think something fell overboard.

Of course to protect myself from any repercussions regarding the consequences of my statements, may I say, I only wish them the best and brightest of futures.

Ed.
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« Reply #134 on: September 22, 2007, 02:39:49 AM »



Talking about who is rich and who isn't will always depend on where you are sitting to view things.

One mans ceiling is another mans floor..............

This has been going on since the dawn of man and there really is no answer. Some would say that the richest people are those who have good health and family. Everything else is a bonus.

Interesting things from my trip to Hong Kong.

First ironically some in HK are complaining about the monopoly racing has there and how it is hurting business in HK by keeping casinos out. Those who do not know Macaw is building huge new casinos and are pretty much copying Las Vegas casino by casino but only much larger in size. Many tourists are now going there and visiting HK instead of the reverse which use to be the norm.

The crime rate is growing very fast in China due to the sudden increase of million and billionaires but no middle class to speak of. There is a huge gap between the haves and have nots. Keep in mind at the penalties for robbery and murder are VERY harsh and swift. This fact seems to have little effect on the rise in crime however as it would seem that those who have not don't care what happens to them since living with nothing isn't much to live for anyway.

With the weakening dollar we are going to see a lot of foreign buyers of property here pretty soon as many are looking for places to invest their increasing wealth and the market here is ripe for their picking. Its too bad we don't make more product here in the states anymore or would could be making hay on exports. Unfortunately most of our products now come from China or other countries in that area, thanks mostly to our businesses moving factories ourseas, Wal-Mart and really the US consumer who refuses to buy US made product at a higher price. Cant say I blame them either if the same product is for sale and one is 50.00 more not too many will take the more expensive one.

I say Wal-Mart because they are one of the prime reasons we have such a large trade deficit and have a volume of purchasing that equals or even passes some countries. All they do is find product on the market and try to have it knocked off in China or find similar product and then put constant pressure on the factory to lower their prices. Once they get them to the point where the factory can no longer make a profit and cannot lower the price any further, they move on to another factory and repeat the process. Sooner or later this will cause Wal-Mart to implode but it will still be a while before that happens, it will though just as it did with Sears and Kmart and other before them but those retailers where also beating on US factories as well. I remember when Sam Walton was alive they would not buy anything that wasn't made in the US unless there was no factory making that product in the US.

People in HK who were really born as English Subjects, do not like what is happening in China as they feel they are growing too fast and not doing things properly or safely. They feel there will be a major health problem in a rather short period of time that could effect a large number of those in China and possibly spread to HK and the rest of the world. SARS came close to doing that and is still lurking there along with Bird Flu ( they had just killed millions of ducks because of an outbreak there).

But all in all even with the mess we have to deal with in this country, I still wouldn't want to live anywhere else. But I still think we could all do better no matter how much money any of us might have. Thats my opinion anyway  Grin
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« Reply #135 on: September 22, 2007, 12:07:10 PM »

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« Reply #136 on: September 22, 2007, 01:24:38 PM »

I wonder why you didn't include George Soros (the tax evader) in your list above?

Soros is awesome.
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« Reply #137 on: September 22, 2007, 01:31:03 PM »

$800 a year for recreation isn't all that much. I know plenty of people who spend more than that in a year on cigarettes.

Terry and mel4600 seem pretty dead on about this. One can spend money for one "frivolous luxury" while sacrificing other things in life. When I was in college (I worked my way through college), I would buy my shirts (usually polyester short sleeve button down shirts you might see retirees wearing) from a thrift store for $2.99 a pop so that I had enough money to buy $200 walking shoes. One might look at my shoes and say "This guy is obviously well off," but the point was that I made sacrifices to obtain something that I wanted.
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« Reply #138 on: September 23, 2007, 11:19:53 AM »

Jim can you, "Say cheese!!"

You still own your daddy's invention or is it "obsolete" now? If so, hope they gave you a warning. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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« Reply #139 on: September 23, 2007, 11:37:43 AM »

$800 a year for recreation isn't all that much. I know plenty of people who spend more than that in a year on cigarettes.

Terry and mel4600 seem pretty dead on about this.

When everybody comments on the single line-item -- "$800 a year for recreation" -- out of context, boy do I look foolish! I don't know what could have come over me.

The problem is, you can't look at that single piece; that $800 a year just gets Mel in the door and in a comfortable reserved seat -- does he come with empty pockets and just watch the races, and not bet? Of course not. 

My point was, and still is: if you have $800 to spend on a seat AT A RACETRACK (where you will undoubtedly gamble many times that amount over the course of the season) and YOU OWN RACEHORSES, the consensus opinion of the masses is that you are rich...whether you want to admit it or not. (And I understand that almost no one, especially those of modest upbringing, wants to admit that they are rich -- hell, the last IT director I worked for claimed to be "middle class", while hauling in $250K a year, plus stock options.) 

All of you can come up with all of the distracting, out of context objections you want; the fact is, poor folks don't own racehorses, nor do they pay for a box seat at AP for a whole season. Neither do "average, middle class" folks.
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« Reply #140 on: September 23, 2007, 11:40:11 AM »

Y'all be splittin pubes. How many average middle class honkies want a box seat anyway?

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« Reply #141 on: September 23, 2007, 11:47:10 AM »

If you're the average owner with a box seat pushing $10K through the window, are you exactly walking around with your hand-out?

Maybe.

 Cheesy
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« Reply #142 on: September 23, 2007, 12:08:27 PM »

If you're the average owner with a box seat pushing $10K through the window, are you exactly walking around with your hand-out?

Maybe.

 Cheesy

Mel did say (in another thread somewhere) that he is getting away from owning horses, so maybe he's not "filthy" rich...or maybe he is, and is just tired of losing money on owning horses.

Yeah, all of those other horse owners who are losing money owning horses (i.e., they have money to burn), you know, the reason we need slots so bad, so the poor horse owners can have higher purses -- they're average, middle-class folks, too.  Right? They're probably buying $2.99 shirts so they can spend ten$ of thou$ands on owning horses. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #143 on: September 23, 2007, 12:10:50 PM »

Right on Brother.

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« Reply #144 on: September 23, 2007, 12:27:51 PM »

Mel did say (in another thread somewhere) that he is getting away from owning horses, so maybe he's not "filthy" rich...or maybe he is, and is just tired of losing money on owning horses.

Yeah, all of those other horse owners who are losing money owning horses (i.e., they have money to burn), you know, the reason we need slots so bad, so the poor horse owners can have higher purses -- they're average, middle-class folks, too.  Right? They're probably buying $2.99 shirts so they can spend ten$ of thou$ands on owning horses. Roll Eyes
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Thanks for understanding and clarifying what I was trying to say before.
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