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Author Topic: BTW regular has a column at NTRA.com  (Read 2280 times)
Thomas Graham
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« on: January 09, 2006, 04:38:36 PM »

http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=feature&id=16183
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2006, 11:59:50 AM »

Odds On (no pun intended) of J-j-j-joe Kr-kr-kr-istufek handicapping his way out of a paper bag = 100/1.   Grin  TC  Joe Kristufek = kaynahorah or bocci di tutti bocci.  FACT
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2006, 01:49:37 PM »

I seriously think joe k. is the best public handicapper in chicago since Elmer Polzin!!!  He knows what counts return on money.  Compare him to feldman or that guy from the herald who had the yearly bankroll is a joke, keep up the good writings Joe K!!
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2006, 01:51:40 PM »

I seriously think joe k. is the best public handicapper in chicago since Elmer Polzin!!!  He knows what counts return on money.  Compare him to feldman or that guy from the herald who had the yearly bankroll is a joke, keep up the good writings Joe K!!
O-ah-ah-ah-K.  Whatever you say.  Knee pads are on sale at Sportmart this week so stock up !  LOL  TC
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2006, 02:14:21 PM »

What's the deal with the stutttering.  I don't recall Joe stuttering.  You obviously don't like the guy TC, whoever you are.

TJG
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2006, 04:55:09 PM »

I like Joe and think he's a sharp guy but one of his statements is the dumbest thing I've ever read.  His article is about how to make money at the track but right in the middle he declares you should tip the tellers 10% of your payout when  you score big.  WTF?

Joe, I like and respect you but if I gave away 10% of my winnings I would be in the red.  If I'm going well and the teller has been helpful, I'll put down a small bet for him.

-RSR
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2006, 05:28:54 PM »

I have never tipped a teller in my life and have never known any of my friends that have also.  Thats the mostly crazy thing I have heard.  Tip an old unfriendly goat who moved slower than a tortose makes about 22.00 bucks an hour because they are union.  Most tellers I have seen over the years make their own tips buy screwing people by there many tricks when making payouts.   And I am sure many regulars know some of their tricks they are truely legendary.  I am not saying all but many!!  Tip a teller forget it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Unbelievable..
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2006, 05:29:26 PM »

Right Run, forget the 10% that is way to hi.  With the teller service I get at Arlington, I won't be tipping those people 1 cent-Hawthorne treats me much better.  MM
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2006, 05:29:53 PM »

I like Joe and think he's a sharp guy but one of his statements is the dumbest thing I've ever read.  His article is about how to make money at the track but right in the middle he declares you should tip the tellers 10% of your payout when  you score big.  WTF?

Joe, I like and respect you but if I gave away 10% of my winnings I would be in the red.  If I'm going well and the teller has been helpful, I'll put down a small bet for him.

-RSR
J-jjjj-oe would actually have to score big, then figure out the 10 %.  I'd pay to see him working out that figure in his pea brain.    To him, a big score is like a Blackhawk's game - 3/2 or 2/1 - LOL.  TC
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2006, 05:36:41 PM »

I have a tip for a teller - -   RETIRE, you won't live forever folks.  10%   I am still amazed!!!   need more opinions on this one folks
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2006, 09:54:00 PM »

First off the tellers are pretty much the same ones at Hawthorne as they are at AP since they are all union people and come from the same work force. Second, maybe its crazy but whenever I have a signer bet I always tip the teller, call it crazy but I do the same thing in Vegas if I hit a win streak at Blackjack or anything else where there is a dealer, I will tip them something. All you folks who are grousing about the tellers, maybe thats why they are so cranky with you....you never tip them!! LOL!
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2006, 10:06:07 PM »

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maybe its crazy but whenever I have a signer bet I always tip the teller, call it crazy but I do the same thing in Vegas if I hit a win streak at Blackjack or anything else where there is a dealer, I will tip them something

Fair enough.  Tip them something.  But when someone recommends taking 10% off the gross for a schmoe who just stood there and punched in your brilliant idea, I find that concept foolish.  We're already fighting a 16% to 25% takeout.  Why in the world should I pay a hundred dollars or more to someone who's doing essentially the same job as the checkout clerk at my local Jewell supermarket?

I think you're going to have a harder time fighting that silver spoon image these guys are trying to lay on you with that kind of comment.

-RSR
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2006, 01:12:01 AM »

Regarding the 10%, I didn't want to be the first to mention it, but I did notice that, at least on his website tips, and that 10% level would pretty much kill off anyone's chance to be a winning player.  I've heard the best of the best handicappers are lucky in this game to earn 20% on their money.  Very few people actually earn a profit over a whole year.  Giving up 10% on one's winning days would pretty much wipe out all but nearly the best of the best.  The best (at 20% ROI) would have their season's profits slashed in half. 

I'll give a teller a small tip once in a while, a little more if I'm cashing a signer.  Usually $2-$10 max, enough so they can make a wager or two, and 'have a play on me'.  They're usually happy enough.  Besides, I normally make my wagers through the SAM's.     

I like to tip the food service people, esp. the ones at Hawthorne that I get a chance to talk to.  Every dollar obviously helps, and they really do appreciate it.  They're not going to make the wages of a union mutuel clerk, who might make 50% to 80% more than a bank teller makes. 

But folks should tip however they feel is best.
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2006, 07:09:43 AM »

Point well taken, and I agree, my tip percentage for the tellers is inflated.

An honest mistake on my part.

I've sent a revision to the NTRA.

If I win $200.........no I do not tip $20, this would be insane.

At least I sparked some conversation!

Happy New Year to all, and best of luck!

DAK
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2006, 08:31:06 AM »

When I sign I always tip the teller, when I cash out for odd amounts I will likely tip the teller the odd amount - for example if I'm getting back 406.40 or something I will tell them to just give me the 100s. I will never tip a teller who seems to be hinting for a tip.

I play the sam machines generally, the worst aspect of cashing out with a teller after playing them is sometimes you may be in a 1,000 on a voucher go to cash out for 600 and then have the teller start hinting for a tip.

Somebody mentioned casinos above, that is really a different animal than the teller issue - the typical dealer barely makes minimum wage - thier money comes from the tips (I know it shouldn't be that way as casinos are generally a terrible gamble and they should be able to pay thier staff and not make the customers pay them - but that's the way it is)

By the way, almost all casinos pool all tips and then divide by the hours worked - so if you really like a dealer and tip well you are actually tipping all the dealers working including the idiots.
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2006, 11:45:19 AM »

Yep, i didn't want to be the first to "mention it" either.
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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2006, 08:12:28 AM »

The best teller at the race track is Ron at Balmoral. Always courtious and never trying to con anyone. He deserves a TIP.
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