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« on: April 11, 2007, 10:32:59 AM »

'm hoping somebody may fill in this missing gap.

Formerly (1966-79) located in East St. Louis, Missouri

Some type of facility had its beginnings in 1892:

"race-horse track was constructed in 1892 at the intersection of the
Southern Railroad and the Illinois Central Railroad south of 8th and Piggot
Avenue. So successful were the races, that the meet continued through the
winter months. The grandstand and betting ring were enclosed in glass and
heated by coal stoves."
www.riverweb.uiuc.edu/IBEX/guidebook/early_history.htm

the following for 1954:
The village of Alcoa is incorporated. Its name will be later changed to
Alorton. which is a contraction of Aluminum Ore Town. At the time, the
village only had a population of about 2,000 residents. Most of the people
living there moved in from East St. Louis. In 1954, the placed doubled its
size when it annexed a two-mile square tract which included Cahokia Downs
race track.
http://www.eslarp.uiuc.edu/ibex/archive/nunes/timeline/193744.htm

I saw another reference which said the facility was built in the 20's.

Cahokia Downs with the chute opened for a 30-day meet of harness racing in
1957 (have the Harness Horse articles and some photo's). [Ed Keller was the
GM in 1957] Ted Ketchum converted the T-Bred surface to a S-Bred surface.

 There is NOT, however any reference to Cahokia in my 1958 archives.

The next references I have are from the USTA Trotting and Pacing Guides
which list the track as "reopened in 1966" and is the Cahokia most people
knew, shutting down in 1979.

Anybody have a clue what happened between 1958 & 1966?
At least for harness racing!
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2007, 12:53:12 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2007, 02:11:31 PM »

Recently added a page for Aurora Downs. (a works in progress).


http://www.mi-harness.net/trks/auroradwns.html




Were the purses indicated on the condition sheet adjusted for inflation, it might show that they were racing for more back then (50 years ago) then they are now------------------------------sad.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2007, 03:15:44 PM »

Were the purses indicated on the condition sheet adjusted for inflation, it might show that they were racing for more back then (50 years ago) then they are now------------------------------sad.

 Dan,
         Those Golden Days were a special time.

 Despite what the majority believe today, in those times, the tracks actually got in the BLACK profit margins off of concessions, paid attendance, programs and all the other fringe items they sold.

 Today's emptied track patrons can hardly imagine standing in long lines for crappy hot dogs and then going to a counter with both unclean and empty condiments on hand Wink
 The tracks don't have those profits today and bad customer service is the primary reason.

 Course, that's not all that has influenced declining crowds on hand!
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2007, 03:58:15 PM »

Not only that but the races at Aurora could be viewed from your car if you parked up near the turn for home. The admission charges were for those who wanted to place a bet. My dad would tell us to "watch the buggies, I'll be right back" and my sister and I would do just that as he went inside and bet the whole card then came back and taught us how to bet "the buggies". He tried to justify his bets I think.
Red McKlyo, first horse I ever bet on and my favorite 'Downs" horse ever since.
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2007, 12:35:27 PM »

Cakokia Downs was located near Fairmount Park which is in  Collinsville Ilinois! I remember going to the runners their one night after watching the Illinois State fair Races in Springfield!
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2007, 03:56:23 PM »

Missed this post when it was up originally but I'll tell you what I know.
Cahokia Downs (located about ten miles south of Fairmount) opened for thoroughbreds in 1954. Don't know about their early harness meets, I thought they had harness meets between '58 and '66 but not sure. Do still recall that there wasn't much room to turn around in their "about" 1 and 1/16 mile chute. Cka 3/4 was the only game in Southern Illinois for a couple years after the FP grandstand burnt down but once Fairmount came back it was history. Thoroughbreds trained their into the early 1990s, then it sat empty. A few years ago they built a truck terminal, truck stop and gas station there. A couple of the camera towers are still there.
You also might be interested in knowing that Fairmount had harness meets in '48 and '49, but then never had another harness meet until '66.
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2009, 06:09:53 PM »

I was at cahokia in the late 70's when my grandfather trained T'Breds....it was nasty. Lousy backside. wilderness, i have one correction for your story though, It's East St. Louis ILLINOIS, not MO. Last I knew they still had T'breds there for a training place, no grandstand or anything. It is in view from I 64 as you come into the interchange with 265?(I think).
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2009, 11:18:41 PM »

Theres no training center there anymore the trck is gone theres another business there now
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