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« on: December 10, 2006, 01:46:22 AM »

Yonkers cancels Saturday program
Saturday, December 9, 2006 - by Frank Drucker, Yonkers Raceway Publicity Director
 
 
YONKERS, NY - Due to a malfunction with the track lighting, Yonkers Raceway was forced to cancel Saturday's scheduled 10-race harness program.
 
A number of banks of lights encircling the half-mile oval were unable to be turned on, the result of a computer glitch.

Management waited approximately one hour after the scheduled 7:40 PM first post before making the decision. Citing horse and driver safety, racing with limited lightning was never a consideration.
 
Live racing is scheduled to resume with a 10-race Sunday program, first post at 5:00 PM sharp.
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Computer Glitch?

Dont tell me computer glitch when you still have the same freaking old stadium lights that 15 minutes to warm up that you had before you closed for the renovations.

Dont tell me computer glitch when on Yonkers Trot night to highlight each horse, you turned off the lights along the track apron and literally used two hand held spot lights from the roof

Dont tell me computer glitch when you lose a couple of banks of lights on the back stretch but no others on the track and in the mean time just on the other side of the fence of the backstretch, your lights for your casino parking lot and on the opposite siode of the track, you dont so much as have a single bulb out in your casino's bathrooms.

Computer glitch my arse. What happened is embarrassing enough without lying about it. How about you announce what you are going to offer the horsemen whop had expenses for shipping in ... especially for your three Open races.
 
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2006, 10:25:31 AM »

Bad enough they do what they do ,the lies need to stop!
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2006, 11:08:44 AM »

It was good for them the computer that controls the slots didn't have a glitch. 

We knew the problem couldn't be a toteboard problem! LOL!!!!!
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2006, 12:11:01 PM »

Bad enough they do what they do ,the lies need to stop!


Thats exactly my point. There is no way in hell any of the track lights are connected to the system that handles the casino. Security requirements dictate the lights and the electrical system in the casino are connected to a system and monitored 24/7. With any power failure, a completely seperate back-up system kicks in.

Now we know no back-up system kicked in last night

As I said earlier, in Yonkers Trot night, they turned off the clubhouse side lights to highlight the horses during the post parade for the Trot and Messenger. They had to use hand held spotlights from the roof like prison guards in the tower

I know there are no parking or admission charges but I wonder how many people were offered refunds or a  complimentary program the next time they were to go to Yonkers. How many people coming from many parts of NYC would have been offered a reimbursement on the $9.00 tolls?

Losing the lights are bad enough but the lies and cover-up make it worse
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2006, 12:37:46 PM »


Thats exactly my point. There is no way in hell any of the track lights are connected to the system that handles the casino. Security requirements dictate the lights and the electrical system in the casino are connected to a system and monitored 24/7. With any power failure, a completely seperate back-up system kicks in.

Now we know no back-up system kicked in last night


I'm having some trouble following your line of reasoning (by the way, I'm not saying that someone shouldn't hold Yonkers accountable for having to cancel last night).

The casino electrical system has to have a back up, for security purposes.

The casino electrical system operates independently of the racetrack's.

The racetrack power system doesn't have to have a back up.

Some of the track's lights were inoperable. What does that have to do with the independent casino system? Where is the lie?



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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2006, 12:49:15 PM »

I'm having some trouble following your line of reasoning (by the way, I'm not saying that someone shouldn't hold Yonkers accountable for having to cancel last night).

The casino electrical system has to have a back up, for security purposes.

The casino electrical system operates independently of the racetrack's.

The racetrack power system doesn't have to have a back up.

Some of the track's lights were inoperable. What does that have to do with the independent casino system? Where is the lie?





NJ,

He is saying that Yonkers blamed it on a computer glitch that controls the track lights. I have to agree, I doubt very much that Yonkers outdated lights are computer controlled. On hand track maintenance should have been able to fix it. If not, 1-800-Geeks should have been called.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2006, 12:54:13 PM »

He is saying that Yonkers blamed it on a computer glitch that controls the track lights. I have to agree, I doubt very much that Yonkers outdated lights are computer controlled.

If there's a computer it was likely installed same time as the lights! The old kind from the 1960's. Gray metal panels with hundreds of black stove switches. LOL!
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2006, 02:48:24 PM »

I'm having some trouble following your line of reasoning (by the way, I'm not saying that someone shouldn't hold Yonkers accountable for having to cancel last night).

The casino electrical system has to have a back up, for security purposes.

The casino electrical system operates independently of the racetrack's.

The racetrack power system doesn't have to have a back up.

Some of the track's lights were inoperable. What does that have to do with the independent casino system? Where is the lie?






My point is Yonkers Raceway said the track lights that went out last night went out due to a "computer glitch". I am saying I dont buy it and it is a lie for three reasons:

1) Yonkers Raceway did not install new lights on the track during their renovations. These are the same old stadium lights that were in place well before the renovations.
They are not connected to a computer system.

On Yonkers Trot night when they turned off the lights along the clubhouse side, each of the banks of lights went off individually and came back on individually. I know this for a fact because I was there and I was standing next to the old Winners Circle where one of the heads of security in a suit and two guards were standing with the Yonkers Trot trophy and he explained the delay was waiting for the lights to heat up again

2) The only computer system used is for the casino. That is by law and my point is that the track is NOT connected to that computer syster because by law for security purposes, it requires a seperate back-up syetem.

Had the track lights been on the casino system, that back up system would have kicked in and you would have had lights on the track

In my opinion, the lie is Yonkers Raceway claiming the lights didnt go on because of a computer glitch when the track lights are not on a computer system to start with.
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2006, 04:59:57 PM »


My point is Yonkers Raceway said the track lights that went out last night went out due to a "computer glitch". I am saying I dont buy it and it is a lie for three reasons:

1) Yonkers Raceway did not install new lights on the track during their renovations. These are the same old stadium lights that were in place well before the renovations.
They are not connected to a computer system.

On Yonkers Trot night when they turned off the lights along the clubhouse side, each of the banks of lights went off individually and came back on individually. I know this for a fact because I was there and I was standing next to the old Winners Circle where one of the heads of security in a suit and two guards were standing with the Yonkers Trot trophy and he explained the delay was waiting for the lights to heat up again

2) The only computer system used is for the casino. That is by law and my point is that the track is NOT connected to that computer syster because by law for security purposes, it requires a seperate back-up syetem.

Had the track lights been on the casino system, that back up system would have kicked in and you would have had lights on the track

In my opinion, the lie is Yonkers Raceway claiming the lights didnt go on because of a computer glitch when the track lights are not on a computer system to start with.

You're 100% certain that there's absolutely no computer system controlling the lights? You know that for a fact? The fact that the light towers came back on one at a time on Yonkers Trot night doesn't mean there's no computer system controlling them. The system might turn the lights back on one bank at a time!
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2006, 05:02:02 PM »

the shell answer man strikes again.. buff ..remember he knows it all from his perch in jersey
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2006, 05:20:14 PM »

the shell answer man strikes again.. buff ..remember he knows it all from his perch in jersey


Why not try to be original and come up with your own name for me, not the one Nance uses.

Of course from your perch in a men's room stall at Raceway Park you definitely know what's going on at Yonkers.
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2006, 05:23:27 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2006, 05:28:21 PM »

at least i do go in the mens room you big ***

Careful off stride. Someone told me Nance was at hogslop publicly begging NJ to join their forum. You wouldn't want NJ to get the wrong idea about posters over there. Like you and ageecee.

Did you see that poem someone wrote about you off stride? LOL!
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2006, 11:08:15 PM »

You're 100% certain that there's absolutely no computer system controlling the lights? You know that for a fact? The fact that the light towers came back on one at a time on Yonkers Trot night doesn't mean there's no computer system controlling them. The system might turn the lights back on one bank at a time!

Gee golly NJhorseman. Im not one of those MIT guys and I know I should have brought my Bible and Deposition Pad when I went up there last time so I could have taken sworn statements so I apologize for that but when you have the same old stadium lights and you didnt replace them when you were doing a $250 million construction project on the property and you dont even have a tote board in place, I am thinking the only thing that could be computerized about the lights is when the GM claps his hands once to turn them on and twice to turn them off
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2006, 11:29:50 PM »


Why not try to be original and come up with your own name for me, not the one Nance uses.

Of course from your perch in a men's room stall at Raceway Park you definitely know what's going on at Yonkers.


Don't bother him TOOOOOO MUCH OFF STRIDE, he has to calculate what to say about the USTA district meeting he was attending with BUYOUT/RESIGNATION BOY.

OH the webs we weave when we tend to deceive.
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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2006, 08:10:17 AM »

he talks about me watchng races from my perch of raceway park ... but my live attendance this year included ..hazel park twice..nfld park twice..jackson raceway twice , windsor...oak harbor fair twice ..upper sandusky...wauseon.. napoleon..findlay.. lima ..saw the last race card at norwalk.. all live and in person... i am sure the douchebag as valleyvic coins him may have made it to one or 2 venues, so he does know it all as his older than crud friends tell him like it they see it.. i do actually get out and see 'live' racing, not just with the 'old' gang at frijole, emphasis on the word 'old'..and if i do run into the old phuck..i'll make his shoes my personal mens room.. but since i am six foot seven..i may just have to piss all over his face, as it is a long way to the ground where paul resides..phuck him and all his kind
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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2006, 08:20:34 AM »

All this.nonsense talk is missing the point. Why would Yonkers lie? Why no racing? Monetary reasons? Stupidity? Come on all you experts tell us the real reason why there was no racing at Yonkers Saturday night.
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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2006, 08:22:00 AM »

All this.nonsense talk is missing the point. Why would Yonkers lie? Why no racing? Monetary reasons? Stupidity? Come on all you experts tell us the real reason why there was no racing at Yonkers Saturday night.

Normally the reason people lie -- if they did or didn't I do not know -- is because they don't want to admit the truth and show that they are/were responsible for something.

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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2006, 09:50:36 AM »

Gee golly NJhorseman. Im not one of those MIT guys and I know I should have brought my Bible and Deposition Pad when I went up there last time so I could have taken sworn statements so I apologize for that but when you have the same old stadium lights and you didnt replace them when you were doing a $250 million construction project on the property and you dont even have a tote board in place, I am thinking the only thing that could be computerized about the lights is when the GM claps his hands once to turn them on and twice to turn them off

"Buffalo", what does Yonkers gain by lying? That's my point. Why bother with the "computer glitch" line rather than a vague "electrical system malfunction"? Does it matter one iota?

If you want to complain about Yonkers not doing enough to upgrade the racing facility, that's a reasonable position to argue.
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2006, 09:53:39 AM »


Don't bother him TOOOOOO MUCH OFF STRIDE, he has to calculate what to say about the USTA district meeting he was attending with BUYOUT/RESIGNATION BOY.

OH the webs we weave when we tend to deceive.

I'm curious, Daley. Since you seem to disappear from BTW on weekends, and magically reappear right after midnight Sunday night, are you doing something like spending your weekends in jail?  Grin
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2006, 09:55:42 AM »

he talks about me watchng races from my perch of raceway park ... but my live attendance this year included ..hazel park twice..nfld park twice..jackson raceway twice , windsor...oak harbor fair twice ..upper sandusky...wauseon.. napoleon..findlay.. lima ..saw the last race card at norwalk.. all live and in person... i am sure the douchebag as valleyvic coins him may have made it to one or 2 venues, so he does know it all as his older than crud friends tell him like it they see it.. i do actually get out and see 'live' racing, not just with the 'old' gang at frijole, emphasis on the word 'old'..and if i do run into the old phuck..i'll make his shoes my personal mens room.. but since i am six foot seven..i may just have to piss all over his face, as it is a long way to the ground where paul resides..phuck him and all his kind

Oh, my. What an adult response. I guess you really enjoy the company of the other 12 year olds at horsemanure.com.

Do you ever have an original thought? First you call me a name used by Nance, then one used by my old "pal" "Vic."
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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2006, 06:35:09 PM »

If i am correct i think the lights went out Sat 12/2 at Yonkers during the 3rd race......
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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2006, 06:55:52 PM »

I was there the "Night the lIghts went out in Georgia"
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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2006, 11:44:37 PM »

"Buffalo", what does Yonkers gain by lying? That's my point. Why bother with the "computer glitch" line rather than a vague "electrical system malfunction"? Does it matter one iota?

If you want to complain about Yonkers not doing enough to upgrade the racing facility, that's a reasonable position to argue.

Why lie and say it was a "computer glitch"? The answer is simple:

Yonkers Raceway has been open for about a months after under going an 18-month, $250 million dollar renovation and they have to cancel their biggest card of the week cause they cant turn on some of the lights.

Thats an embarrassment. Now do you make yourself look more stupid and say that the track's ancient lighting system that you failed to upgrade much less replace during that $250 million renovation failed ... or do you save face and give some vague answer like "computer glitch" where nobody would think twice of it ... unless you are one of the few to have been to Yonkers and can actually see how poor the racing side of the place looks.

You ask why does it matter? Because its an issue of honesty and integrity with them. That probably makes me old fashioned and a member of a small minority but things like that bother me.
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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2006, 12:15:21 AM »

Why lie and say it was a "computer glitch"? The answer is simple:

Yonkers Raceway has been open for about a months after under going an 18-month, $250 million dollar renovation and they have to cancel their biggest card of the week cause they cant turn on some of the lights.

Thats an embarrassment. Now do you make yourself look more stupid and say that the track's ancient lighting system that you failed to upgrade much less replace during that $250 million renovation failed ... or do you save face and give some vague answer like "computer glitch" where nobody would think twice of it ... unless you are one of the few to have been to Yonkers and can actually see how poor the racing side of the place looks.

You ask why does it matter? Because its an issue of honesty and integrity with them. That probably makes me old fashioned and a member of a small minority but things like that bother me.

I agree 100% with ya BB
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