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Author Topic: Jose C. Ferrer still riding  (Read 5751 times)
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« on: December 09, 2006, 05:09:27 PM »

Today (Saturday) at Tampa Bay Downs Jose C. Ferrer rode a winner in the 5f turf race for Mike Dini. Dini was in the winners circle too - I think it was him.

I thought Ferrer was suspended? Or is he still fighting an appeal?
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2006, 05:42:23 PM »

Today (Saturday) at Tampa Bay Downs Jose C. Ferrer rode a winner in the 5f turf race for Mike Dini. Dini was in the winners circle too - I think it was him.

I thought Ferrer was suspended? Or is he still fighting an appeal?

He appealed. His hearing is Tuesday December 12.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2006, 09:44:11 PM »

dini was in fla. today  he also saddled  ivan  today
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2006, 10:55:42 PM »

Florida wont recognize the Illinois suspension.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2006, 07:57:59 AM »

Florida will recognize the suspension SWAY. Another wrong guess SWAY like Anna.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2006, 08:20:24 AM »

Thanks Nick for telling SWAY he was wrong again LOL!
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2006, 09:05:19 AM »

Florida will recognize the suspension SWAY. Another wrong guess SWAY like Anna.

You sure about that?
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2006, 09:06:14 AM »

Thanks Nick for telling SWAY he was wrong again LOL!

Pile on Motto!! Guess what? The emperor has no clothes!!
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2006, 10:58:41 AM »

SWAY --

They'll all honor the suspension once it is out of appeal...which should be Tuesday.
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2006, 11:06:52 AM »

SWAY --

They'll all honor the suspension once it is out of appeal...which should be Tuesday.

Battled, I just called Calder racing office at 305-625-1311 (then press 2) and they told me they will not honor the suspension and don't even honor Illinois finger print cards. It can influence them about issuing a license if he does not have one already. They said it is a local matter.
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2006, 11:18:27 AM »

Strange...they always honor track suspensions.....

You've got some investigative reporter traits, huh Sway?
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2006, 11:46:07 AM »

Strange...they always honor track suspensions.....

You've got some investigative reporter traits, huh Sway?

Not really, just curious. Would rather see a written ruling since hearsay don't mean nothing.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2006, 12:55:34 PM »

Florida will recognize the suspension SWAY. Another wrong guess SWAY like Anna.

Section 1303.20  Penalties

 

Possible penalties for violation of the Rules and Regulations of the Board are as follows:

 

a)         Denial, revocation or suspension of license,

 

b)         Monetary fines not exceeding $5,000. for each violation,

 

c)         Suspension from one or more activities at one or more tracks,

 

d)         Expulsion from pari-mutuel harness racing in Illinois, or

 

e)         Forfeiture or return of purses won
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2006, 01:03:57 PM »

Florida will recognize the suspension SWAY. Another wrong guess SWAY like Anna.

Section 1322.30  Definition of Suspension

 

Whenever the penalty of suspension is prescribed in these rules, it shall be construed to mean an unconditional exclusion and disqualification from the time of receipt of written notice of suspension from privileges and uses of the course and grounds of a track during the progress of a race meeting, unless otherwise specifically limited when such suspension is imposed, such as a suspension from driving. A suspension or expulsion of either a husband or wife shall apply in each instance to both the husband and wife. The suspension becomes effective when notice is given unless otherwise specified
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2006, 07:21:56 PM »

Sway,

What do harness rules have to do with Ferrer?  You need to look at the rules that start with 1402 for Thoroughbred racing.
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2006, 11:31:40 PM »

SWAY, you are once again wrong just like Anna. What does Calder have to do with the suspension? Jose is riding at Tampa Bay Downs. Continue making an ASS of yourself on this post.
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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2006, 09:22:19 AM »

SWAY, you are once again wrong just like Anna. What does Calder have to do with the suspension? Jose is riding at Tampa Bay Downs. Continue making an ASS of yourself on this post.

NWARYAS YOU DUMB ASS!! Tampa racing office wasn't open yesterday and Calder was. In case you haven't noticed they are both in FLORIDA!!! Bawahaaaaa

In any event you were wrong ***hole!!
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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2006, 09:35:17 AM »

Sway,

What do harness rules have to do with Ferrer?  You need to look at the rules that start with 1402 for Thoroughbred racing.


I did and they only talk about suspensions in the 1300's that I could find. Instead of just putting in your 2 cents worth to say I was in the harness rules why don't you throw in your whole nickel's worth and say wether I am right or not about Florida since you are the so called expert!!
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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2006, 10:48:17 AM »

It's a moot point at the moment as  Ferrer is not suspended at the moment since he has a stay from the Circuit Court.  Once his case is adjudicated and the days re-issued, they'll be honored throught the US
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2006, 11:02:48 AM »

It's a moot point at the moment as  Ferrer is not suspended at the moment since he has a stay from the Circuit Court.  Once his case is adjudicated and the days re-issued, they'll be honored throught the US

Thats not what the people in Florida were saying. Show me the ruling that states the Illinois Racing Board or Illinois stewards have the right to serve penalties outside this state.
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2006, 11:11:52 AM »

jrstark does the cat got your tongue? Your buddy Thomas Graham carries no weight with his comment. You apparently explored the rules section so show us what you found!! If Ferrer does not serve his suspension Illinois can refuse him a license in the future but they cannot impose their will on another state which they have no jurisdiction.
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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2006, 11:27:43 AM »

It's a moot point at the moment as  Ferrer is not suspended at the moment since he has a stay from the Circuit Court.  Once his case is adjudicated and the days re-issued, they'll be honored throught the US

When is this case going to be "adjudicated"? I was not aware this was a judicial case? I assumed he was waiting for hearing before the racing board on 12/12/06. One last thing, which circuit court issued a stay? I could not find anything in the Cook County circuit court.
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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2006, 11:41:00 AM »

Sway you are very determined on this issue -  and for that I give you credit!!!!!!!!!  Personally I don't have an opinion as I am not sure the legalities of this issue, but kudos to you........
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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2006, 11:46:04 AM »

Sway you are very determined on this issue -  and for that I give you credit!!!!!!!!!  Personally I don't have an opinion as I am not sure the legalities of this issue, but kudos to you........

I wasn't sure either except I learned a long time ago to check for accuracy instead of taking somones word for it on a message board. A question was raised and I just wanted a true answer.
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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2006, 03:08:06 PM »

Sway, we'll wait for tomorrow to come and go. Let's see who's right.
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