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Author Topic: Industry Internet Website Observations  (Read 2731 times)
emp
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« on: October 27, 2005, 07:57:09 PM »

Here's a new topic that will open up people's eyes and possibly kill some worms in some cans in the industry. As a valued 'surfer' of info on the web for various reasons, I've come to some conclusions recently in reference to the harness racing industry and want to now share them with everyone.

This post is more of an informative one in nature which will bring some issues to light which I feel play an imporant role in the industry. Here we go.

As the 'information age' is clearly taking shape in the industry, more and more people are realizing and thus utilizing the internet as an information source. From entries and results (which is the highest used tool) to live video feeds and stories and etc....

Let's all try to start to compile a list, or actually a PLETHORA of sites that people should save in their 'favorites' and use as tools to aid them in their education and overall knowledge base.

Hopefully other contributors to this forum can add links to this list as its obviously not an extensive one at best. The sites named here will act as a starting point, so please everyone contribute and add you opinions on these sites and others you feel are pertinent in helping people understand our sport by futher educating everyone involved. As this topic gets more replies, I'll add some observations on what is lacking on some sites and where some big improvements need to take shape. As a thought one needs to consider updates for medication violations, updates from horsemen associations, access to archived racing information and/or results and etc.....

national association websites
ustrotting.com - the universal site in the US, used mainly for entries and results as well as the pathway system (a little costly) for research, also linked to the Hoofbeats magazine publication
standardbredcanada.ca - the Canadian equivalent which is a more formalized organization, also linked to the Trot magazine publication

trade publications
harnessracing.com - another nice publication, very timely with web updates
canadiansportsman.ca - excellent publication with in-depth stories
theharnessedge.com - another up to date publication with timely 'letters to the editor' as well as pertinent and timely podcast interviews
harnesslink.com - an international in scope publication, more of a storage website that archives anything to do with the industry

etc..........
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pacerfan
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2005, 08:26:15 PM »

I agree.
For results qucikly I like the following sites:
www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/totedb/tracks.cgi[/b]

www.ebetusa.com/racing/

www.ehorse.com/

you may have to sign up  and to my knowledge they are free.

Of course, the best website for racing is  www. thebigm.com
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emp
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2005, 10:42:24 PM »

Thx for the input, surely there's a lot more like tvg.com which fits smaller on your screen and is good for looking at pool sizes and totals.

http://www.tvg.com/iefive/oddsresults/default.asp

Another hot topic is the regulatory agencies for fines and positives. Whenever something happens with a driver, trainer or licensee, that info needs to and should be posted on a regular and timely basis. Several people in the industry, again, utilize the web for quick and more importantly TIMELY information.

http://www.ustrotting.com/trackside/Rulings/rulings_main.cfm - Weekly rulings in the form of a .pdf file, very timely and pertinent. In the last 2-3 weeks the updates haven't come on late Thursdays as they have in the past, they're now coming out on the following Mon, Tues or even later! They don't post everything, seems like someone is controlling this information.
http://www.arci.com/Recent7.asp - Updates every once in a while, lots of jurisdictions aren't even mentioned as they'd rather not tarnish their reputations. Is this bad integrity or what?
http://www.napraonline.com/PublicPages/PublicrulingsNew.aspx - NAPRA stands for the Nat'l Assoc. of Pari-mutuel Regulators Association. Their informaton is also VERY selective and doesn't include ALL jurisdictions; someone again is controlling all of the information from this association.
http://www.standardbredcanada.ca/fines/ - Very timely and efficient and well documented. Seems like the Canadians have and always will have a heads up on the Americans when it comes to these things. Very informative and an excellent database to search.
http://www.njpublicsafety.org/racing/njrcrulings.html - Probably an excellent structure to set for each individual racing jurisdiction. You can search by name or date and find a lot of information here. It's only limited to New Jersey and again some of the information looks like its controlled by the racing commission aka everything's not posted here as well. Again excellent archived information.
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2005, 11:26:44 PM »

You can find links to many of the current stories about Illinois harness racing on the main page of this website:
http://www.barntowire.com/

and the news updates page:
http://www.barntowire.com/TODAY.html
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2005, 11:34:59 PM »

You can find links to many of the current stories about Illinois harness racing on the main page of this website:
http://www.barntowire.com/

and the news updates page:
http://www.barntowire.com/TODAY.html


Nice PR  Wink

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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2005, 11:57:22 PM »

Nice PR  Wink

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EW

Come on EW, start posting some.... got a ton of topics here that can be listed.....just waiting for someone to get the link going......
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2005, 08:46:38 AM »

Thx for the input, surely there's a lot more like tvg.com which fits smaller on your screen and is good for looking at pool sizes and totals.

http://www.tvg.com/iefive/oddsresults/default.asp

Another hot topic is the regulatory agencies for fines and positives. Whenever something happens with a driver, trainer or licensee, that info needs to and should be posted on a regular and timely basis. Several people in the industry, again, utilize the web for quick and more importantly TIMELY information.

http://www.ustrotting.com/trackside/Rulings/rulings_main.cfm - Weekly rulings in the form of a .pdf file, very timely and pertinent. In the last 2-3 weeks the updates haven't come on late Thursdays as they have in the past, they're now coming out on the following Mon, Tues or even later! They don't post everything, seems like someone is controlling this information.
http://www.arci.com/Recent7.asp - Updates every once in a while, lots of jurisdictions aren't even mentioned as they'd rather not tarnish their reputations. Is this bad integrity or what?
http://www.napraonline.com/PublicPages/PublicrulingsNew.aspx - NAPRA stands for the Nat'l Assoc. of Pari-mutuel Regulators Association. Their informaton is also VERY selective and doesn't include ALL jurisdictions; someone again is controlling all of the information from this association.
http://www.standardbredcanada.ca/fines/ - Very timely and efficient and well documented. Seems like the Canadians have and always will have a heads up on the Americans when it comes to these things. Very informative and an excellent database to search.
http://www.njpublicsafety.org/racing/njrcrulings.html - Probably an excellent structure to set for each individual racing jurisdiction. You can search by name or date and find a lot of information here. It's only limited to New Jersey and again some of the information looks like its controlled by the racing commission aka everything's not posted here as well. Again excellent archived information.




emp:
Allow me to to give you the 411 on the various "rulings" pages you've cited.

USTA:
Other than the information on the suspension of USTA memberships, they can only publish what the states (the actual regulatory authorities) report to them. Many states are very slow in providing the information to the USTA. The publication of the weekly document has been slowed in recent weeks because of problems that arose with the reporting of Brian Sears' drug-related suspension. Pennsylvania was giving them outdated and often incomplete rulings, and by the time they got published, they had already been amended or rescinded. As a  result the USTA is taking a little more time checking out the information on major suspensions before publishing it.

ARCI and NAPRA:
Some states belong to ARCI, some to NAPRA. Neither have any regulatory authority. Each organiization can only report on their own member states. As with the USTA, they have to rely on what the member states give them.

NJRC:
The website tells you it is not an "official" listing of fines and suspensions. As far as I can tell, as many small ($25) fines as important rulings are omitted. Just looks like the typical random errors of some bored state employee who is living far too well off of my tax dollars, rather than any intentional manipulation of the information published.
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