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 on: Today at 02:20:43 AM 
Started by 1st over - Last post by 1st over

        a friend of mine   works   with   a man who is   on the Arlington Heights   city council.   he said that  the Daily Herald and/or   some social media sites     have been saying AH will be honoring Mr. R Duchossois before    the end of the year   with some sort of appropriate civic   area/landmark  named in his honor.
        I hope the rumors are    true.   has anyone seen any that   they    could guide me to?    I think "Mr. D"   has been a treasure   to us all and such   an action would be    a great memento to  show him our appreciation.    he has taken more    cheap shots    than just about   anybody and   still gives us world-class   racing   in Chicagoland.
        not very many suburbs anywhere in    the world can boast that.   Three cheers for    "Mr. D"    and saludo del primo!!!!!!!                       
        maybe they could    name the part of    Northwest Highway   by the race track in his honor.   then some of us  would be turning in off of   the corner of Wilkie and "Duchossois Way".   
       that would    be really cool.



 on: Today at 01:45:18 AM 
Started by UFO - Last post by 1st over

          as always, very, very good points Dan. Thank you. A logical business    question is, does CDI simply accept yet another
  downbound season at Arlington or does it bring in new management personnel    to try and prompt a turnaround?
          if this were any other CDI holding, I don't think there   is    any
question what Mr. R Evans   and his top  managers would do.   Does Mr. R Duchossois show    that he is still business-savvy and responsive   or does he    stubbornly continue to stay in  with   a clearly    losing hand?

 on: Today at 12:27:54 AM 
Started by NIATROSS - Last post by Sea Biscuit
It really doesn't matter whether you are playing longshots or favorites. The idea is to turn a profit at this game. We tend to treat this game as some kinda lottery where you expect to win a lot with very little investment. Wrong concept in my opinion. Horse racing should be treated just as any other business. You gotta invest money to make money in this business. If your'e playing even money favorites it only takes to hit 2 outta 3 to turn a 33% profit. Thats a handsome ROI for any business. This profit can even swell depending on the rebates you are getting. You gotta have patience of a Tibetan monk though. Those favorites I mentioned don't have to be on the same day. They can be spread over several days if need be.

If a horse you figure will lay over the field and win by 2 lengths or more has a 90/95% chance of winning the race and his true odds come postime should be 5 cents on the dollar. If said horse is going off at say 80 cents on the dollar he is considered to be a big overlay as he is going off at 16 times your going rate.

How do you relate a horse's chances of winning a race to the odds he should be going off at? Thats a good question. I wrote an article on the subject some 6/7 years ago. This article has been a sticky at Hoberz's forum for the last 2/3 years and can be read there. If you are not a member of his forum you can read this article by clicking on the link below.

 on: August 27, 2014, 10:32:15 PM 
Started by NIATROSS - Last post by stone162
Temperament is key.
I set my odds and if my possible wager is below those odds, no bet.
I will pass on a 9-1horse if I feel his chances are 10-1.

I will play an even money horse if I feel his chances are 3-5.

Never force a play.

I am the complete opposite.....If I like a certain race I will wager without looking at the toteboard.....Sometimes basing your wagers off what others are betting can cost you a bunch of money

 on: August 27, 2014, 10:10:02 PM 
Started by FAIRHAVEN ADIOS - Last post by I.P.Freely
i retire from posting locks..
i retire a perfect 5 for 5


good luck to all

Other posters, who keep digging themselves into deeper and deeper holes, could learn from your wisdom.  Well done.

 on: August 27, 2014, 10:08:49 PM 
Started by Sea Biscuit - Last post by I.P.Freely
Race 7 #1 Decisive Destiny won for fun by 2 1/2 lengths and paid $3.40-2.60-2.10

Race 2 #1  All Chocolate placed and paid $2.60-2.10.

All Chocolate lost for fun destroying the so-called "lock".

Two win bets ($4) returned $3.40 for a ROI of minus 15%.

More losing bets brought to you by...

 on: August 27, 2014, 09:39:50 PM 
Started by kellytuc - Last post by burton
nascar attendance has fallen dramatically since the mid 2000's.

are they down because of integrity issues as some claim in harness racing ?
are they down because fo teams hendrick and childress ?  there are those that say similar teams in racing like burke and takter people claim have ruined racing.

the answer is no.
nascar like hhorse racing and the rest of the economy suffered from the recession.exposing bad business models who were overextended.
Well said.
But Niatross you've got to understand that many here don't know much about business models etc;
Unless you consider collecting bottles and cans to get paid for the $.05 return is a business.

 on: August 27, 2014, 09:37:33 PM 
Started by NIATROSS - Last post by burton
I thought it only happened to me!  doh

Thing is Burton, often you'll see a ML chalk who looks strong but is 5-1 a minute before, drops to 3-1.  You've got him pegged at 6-5 but you know the smart money knows there's something wrong.  Now you have to readjust your total thinking (odds wise).  When this happens at YR lets say, the smart money is rarely wrong.  Maybe at Tioga he's gonna go 3-5 at the start.

The end result of these drastic movements after the start may find your 6-1 at just that price after being 7-2 going to the gate.  So determining your "value" can be futile.  bang head

Many times I have the race narrowed to 2 and will bet the higher priced one only to see it reverse after the start.  dunno
I see your point.
I guess it doesn't effect me as much because I play the big tracks with the big pools so that doesn't happen as much with my wagers.

 on: August 27, 2014, 09:36:38 PM 
Started by Sea Biscuit - Last post by I.P.Freely
We are into the 8th race right now.

Race 9 #6 Blacktree.

Swing and a miss!

Brought to you by seabiscuit....

 on: August 27, 2014, 09:35:08 PM 
Started by Sea Biscuit - Last post by burton
at least we did not have to read about phony conspiracy theories like the gulfstream jackpot 6
i loved that one.supposedly they kept it covered to build the pot until the lasr day.then on the eve of the biggest payday someone forgot to cover it.   laughing guy laughing guy laughing guy
You've got great legitimate topics going here.
Keep em' coming.

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